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[The Cambelt Kid]

Hi Guys,

Bit of an emergency cracking off at the moment.  My V6 had a belt and tentioners changed at 44k and now it’s on 72k, so I am a few miles off a new belt for now.  I have a problem which I am looking into at the moment and I need to check the valve timing, so today I am stripping it down to check, I also have MDTM's cam timing kit to hand.

Now when I rotate the crank round I noticed that the tentioner does not move at all, it stays static in one position, the little notches are lined up and do not move.  Is this something I need to worry about at all?  If so I will cut the SH*T and install a new camblet kit - it's not worth the trouble...

Any help would be super as I’m stalled on the drive at the moment.

Regards

[TheBoy]

Its so close to needing replacement, I wouldn't bugger about tbh....

[The Cambelt Kid]

HMMM im thinking along the same lines...  shame Vx are closed  

[The Cambelt Kid]

Ooops - Looks like the tentioner wasn't doing its job and all four cams were 1 tooth retarded...

I'm going to be thanking my lucky start tonight that the unspeakable didn't happen.    Needless to say I am installing full GM cam kit tomorrow...

This might explain my slight lack in performance and rattle noise.

[TheBoy]

Ooops - Looks like the tentioner wasn't doing its job and all four cams were 1 tooth retarded...

I'm going to be thanking my lucky start tonight that the unspeakable didn't happen.    Needless to say I am installing full GM cam kit tomorrow...

This might explain my slight lack in performance and rattle noise.

I lucky escape.

Wonder if it had the full kit at 44k?

[The Cambelt Kid]

Not too sure.  I have just checked my belt assy against the CAM DVD and and in the DVD Mark is clearly working on two cam adjusters, where i only have one???

In the DVD Mark has one adjuster for cams 1-2 and anotehr adjuster to the right which adjust 3-4.  I only have one adjuster for 1-2 and just a plain idler for 3-4, there isn't a 30mm head for me to adjust...?  Now i am confused.

MY car is a 52plate 2.6, does my car have a different setup at all?  as Mark's car looks like a 2.5.

Also, i noticed that there are more notches on the cam sprockets, how can i be sure i have the right markings?

Cheers

[TheBoy]

Later cars don't have the lower adjuster.  Different procedure for fitting one of them (slightly).

By the notch is a number, indicating which cam that notch is for.

[The Cambelt Kid]

oh i see, so how can the banks be timed then with only one?

I am trying to get the locks in place but just can't seem to bring it round.  The crank lock is on the water pump and all i need to do is lock the cams, ready for the camkit install tomorrow.  The notches for 1/2 are numbered as you say, but 3 and 4 have two numbers.  3 and 4 have 3/4 on bother sprockets, i take it they are both the same, hence 3/4?

Would i be ok if i took the belt of and moved the cams a few deg's by hand?  as i can't see any other way of getting the locks on.

Cheers TB

Marc

[The Cambelt Kid]

I think i now have things under control...

I did remove the belt in the end, starting from 1+2, then... boing, they spun anti-clockwise a 1/4 turn.  Luckily they were marked with tippex so i knew exactly which marking i needed to line up with the alighnment tool.  So now i have all four sprockets locked in place with the locking tool...  8-)

I noticed that the previous cam belt installer had used yellow paint on the sprockets to do the timing    What a bunch of cowboys!

At least now i can put this right...

[The Cambelt Kid]

Hi Guys,

Now i have the cams and crank all locked up ready for a new GM cambelt kit tomorrow, i wonder if someone could verify which kit i need for a 2.6 52 plate?

Cheers

[CaptainZok]

Kit is dependant on your engine number.
To 08300418 you need 93188674 £143 retail £128.70 trade £89.08 TC
08300419 to 08578511 its 9201887 £118.00 retail £106.20 trade £89.08 TC
08578512 onwards its 93172354 £121.00 retail £106.20 trade £89.08 TC

[The Cambelt Kid]

Kit is dependant on your engine number.
To 08300418 you need 93188674 £143 retail £128.70 trade £89.08 TC
08300419 to 08578511 its 9201887 £118.00 retail £106.20 trade £89.08 TC
08578512 onwards its 93172354 £121.00 retail £106.20 trade £89.08 TC

Crikey, the only number i can find look nothing like them.  Sorry to sound like a numpty, but where on earth can i find my number?

Cheers

[CaptainZok]

It will be on your V5 assuming the engine hasn't been changed.
It's also printed on the barcode sticker on the cambelt cover unless this has fallen off.

[The Cambelt Kid]

Cheers CZ - You're a star!  

I can't (and don't) trust the Vaxhall stealers to supply me with the right kit and being as my car is off the road now i can't take any chances... time is money!

[CaptainZok]

Well those p/n are from the trade club book so its direct from Vx.
You found your engine no then.