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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #15 on: 29 September 2007, 21:09:52 »

A basic engine removal isn't that major. Vx say it's necessary to do the passenger side manifold gasket.

You see loads of complete engines and gearboxes on Ebay - from those you can see what to leave on. Basically disconnect all pipes and wires to the engine and lift out.

On another forum a chap called J Seaman removed and repaired a V6 engine before putting it back in. Pictures all the way.

If you buy a new engine from Vx it won't have any ancilliaries so the job will be bigger because everything will have to be swapped off the original engine (e.g. exhaust manifolds, alternator, PAS pump, etc.).
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #16 on: 29 September 2007, 21:32:48 »

One thing I can add if this will be the first time

dont start laugh :)

for complicated devices (electronic)  generally I draw one schema

and label sticky numbers for connections,sockets,cables in order of disassembly before start up.

Really works well if you are not experienced..(My mechanic friends laugh me when they see my style of work

but when they make mistakes -cause they forgot the original connection I become the last one who laugh)

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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #17 on: 29 September 2007, 21:40:06 »

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One thing I can add if this will be the first time

dont start laugh :)

for complicated devices (electronic)  generally I draw one schema

and label sticky numbers for connections,sockets,cables in order of disassembly before start up.

Really works well if you are not experienced..(My mechanic friends laugh me when they see my style of work

but when they make mistakes -cause they forgot the original connection I become the last one who laugh)

I take a few pictures with digi camera...
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #18 on: 29 September 2007, 21:44:12 »

yep you are more practical  :) but I'm an old man..

ps: mega have very similiar cables,pipes still I think labeling is not bad idea..
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #19 on: 29 September 2007, 21:49:23 »

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yep you are more practical  :) but I'm an old man..

ps: mega have very similiar cables,pipes still I think labeling is not bad idea..
Ah, but I have a Tech2, and that can say "You prat, you have these 2 round the wrong way"....::)
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« Reply #20 on: 29 September 2007, 21:51:27 »

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yep you are more practical  :) but I'm an old man..

ps: mega have very similiar cables,pipes still I think labeling is not bad idea..
Ah, but I have a Tech2, and that can say "You prat, you have these 2 round the wrong way"....::)

I dont have Tech 2 ...

But last time the mechanic (also have tech 2 and really experienced mechanic) mess up the servo pipes.. ;D
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #21 on: 29 September 2007, 22:08:32 »

Omegalord  ;)  only my 2 peneth, I'm sure all the replies are/is sound advice, I ain't no mechanic/thechy, but, if your confident, then go for it.
If you do get stuck, as you already know, the members/admin/help on here will get you through any hard times, all the best and good luck.  :y
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #22 on: 29 September 2007, 22:13:06 »

I think you'd be hard pressed to find an Omega that would benefit from a new engine TBH. Apart from the odd basket case the worst you see are cam belt failures and this can be fixed by changing the heads in-car. The rest of the car would have to be mint to make it even worth considering IMHO.

If you want an as-new engine it'd be much more cost effective to find one that's in reasonable condition and give it a freshen up with some new bearings, rings and a hone and lap the valves in. I doubt you'd get your money back from a new engine and I doubt you'd have a significantly inferior car if you did the above.

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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #23 on: 29 September 2007, 22:25:33 »

dont know if a new engine comes with new wiring and sensors.But if those will be transferred from the old one this will be a minus..
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #24 on: 29 September 2007, 22:27:53 »

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dont know if a new engine comes with new wiring and sensors.But if those will be transferred from the old one this will be a minus..
No, it won't
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #25 on: 29 September 2007, 22:49:37 »

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dont know if a new engine comes with new wiring and sensors.But if those will be transferred from the old one this will be a minus..
No, it won't

Bare block and heads is all you get off them...  :y

I wonder if they include cams and rocker covers?
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #26 on: 29 September 2007, 22:54:09 »

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dont know if a new engine comes with new wiring and sensors.But if those will be transferred from the old one this will be a minus..
No, it won't

Bare block and heads is all you get off them...  :y

I wonder if they include cams and rocker covers?

I would imagine so. Purely from a point of view of warranty (supplied all timed-up with a new cam belt) and so muck doesn't get in them during storage.

But they're sold on the assumption that it's the engine (block, heads) and only the engine that needs to be replaced so no ancillaries. They may require an engine in exchange too.

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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #27 on: 29 September 2007, 22:54:24 »

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dont know if a new engine comes with new wiring and sensors.But if those will be transferred from the old one this will be a minus..
No, it won't

Bare block and heads is all you get off them...  :y

I wonder if they include cams and rocker covers?

clever marketing ..so you need to buy every item seperate and spend a fortune..
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #28 on: 29 September 2007, 22:56:12 »

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dont know if a new engine comes with new wiring and sensors.But if those will be transferred from the old one this will be a minus..
No, it won't

Bare block and heads is all you get off them...  :y

I wonder if they include cams and rocker covers?

I would imagine so. Purely from a point of view of warranty (supplied all timed-up with a new cam belt) and so muck doesn't get in them during storage.

But they're sold on the assumption that it's the engine (block, heads) and only the engine that needs to be replaced so no ancillaries. They may require an engine in exchange too.

Kevin
 
The VX-Pro stuff is done on an exchange basis
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Re: How hard would it be?
« Reply #29 on: 29 September 2007, 23:00:51 »

Thanks for all the replies. I am only considering it as i want to go to town on a late mv6 manual, so if i spent a few thousand on it i wouldnt be worried as the car would cost me a few thousand less than a bmw for instance.

It would be worth it for me because i know then if everything else major is replaced it should last me a long time. And eventually omegas will become rare (going by the amount on ebay for spares)

Matt  :)
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