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Re: Recommendations for MCE....and questions...
« Reply #15 on: 07 October 2007, 22:39:47 »

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I have a Nova-T (single) tuner card and it works very well as a DVB tuner.

Kevin
Yes, and works very well in MCE - if you have enough PCI slots (and 5vsb power!).

The Nova 500 DT dual tuner (2 usb tuners and a USB bridge on a PCI card) is too problematic coming out of standby.


I currently have 2 Nova 500 DTs and a Nova T (5 tuners in total) in my MCE - please note, MCE cannot automatically set up more than 2 tuners.
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« Reply #16 on: 07 October 2007, 22:41:21 »

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S3, may also be called STR.

Forget the s-video (yellow) input.  Do you have a spare SCART that supports RGB and an ATI VGA card?

Thats S video as well then?.....its a yellow phono connector next to a 4 pin connector thats marked s video.

According to this.......

http://www.kv32tweak.freeuk.com/manuals/32fx60u.pdf

Yes it does have a scart that supports RGB

Carnt find an ATI VGA card.....tho should be able to get one easily  :y

Just found an external pc tuner box....rgb in rgb out......brand new in a box.....havent a clue why/when i bought that  ;D
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Re: Recommendations for MCE....and questions...
« Reply #17 on: 07 October 2007, 22:44:49 »

When I had the Sony CRT, I made this...

http://ryoandr.free.fr/english.html

HTH
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« Reply #18 on: 07 October 2007, 22:49:52 »

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Recomendations for MCE? Don't you mean MICE? Anyway, I thought you'd got rid ;)

No AA....not MICE....MCE, its a new fangled thingy.....well not that new actually....but a bit newer than that betamax vcr youve probably got  ;D ;)
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« Reply #19 on: 07 October 2007, 22:53:51 »

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When I had the Sony CRT, I made this...

http://ryoandr.free.fr/english.html

HTH

scart conversion really good job... :y


using a pc monitor for initial configuration for five minutes is more easy for me..
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« Reply #20 on: 07 October 2007, 23:23:56 »

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When I had the Sony CRT, I made this...

http://ryoandr.free.fr/english.html

HTH

Good info  :y

Tho soldering using microscopes years ago.....has knackered my close up vision (probably need glasses)
so.....this might be an alternative?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Laptop-PC-VGA-to-AV-TV-converter-Scart-Adapter-III_W0QQitemZ250172037099QQihZ015QQcategoryZ67859QQcmdZViewItem
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« Reply #21 on: 08 October 2007, 00:51:00 »

You might want to consider Nebula cards. They do both PCI and USB plug ins that can be mixed. One advantage that the others don't seem to do, is on Freeview, Nebula lets you watch the whole Multiplex, eg I am currently recording CH4, but can change to watch CH4+1, ITV1, More 4, ITV4, E4, CITV at the same time. In fact you can record the whole multiplex at once, (if your HD is big enough!). A pretty good setup is if you have 2 Nebula cards, then you can watch/record 2 full multiplexes of channels at once. Trouble is watching it all!. Also, If your card develops a fault, then Nebula will repair it for you, for about £25. I had a problem with a repaired card, wrote them a letter, and they said "send it in, it will be fixed for free". Its A British Company, a rare thing these days. The software is a bit idiosincratic, but works fairly well, once you understand it. There is also a fairly good independent Forum  http://www.digitv-forum.co.uk that helps out with problems. Quite a few of them run multiple Nebula card systems, so lots of advice, and you can see the problems they have, and how they got around them. Some of the Guys have four or five cards in at once, so that's about 30 channels, you better have a very large HD!. My faulty card is a bit of an exception, there are people still running the original cards. As I said in the begining, trouble is finding enough time to watch all the video you have recorded !!!, just as well plug-in USB Hard drives are so cheap !!!!. Oh I forgot to mention, I use the standard XPpro OS, purely because it can cope with large file systems. The later OS's are a bit of a pain in the ..........
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« Reply #22 on: 08 October 2007, 09:26:28 »

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When I had the Sony CRT, I made this...

http://ryoandr.free.fr/english.html

HTH

scart conversion really good job... :y


using a pc monitor for initial configuration for five minutes is more easy for me..
Problem I found was Powerstrip software was a bugger to set up on my old 100Hz Sony.  My tip - ensure you have something like VNC 100% workign before installing Powerstrip!!
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« Reply #23 on: 08 October 2007, 09:27:58 »

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You might want to consider Nebula cards. They do both PCI and USB plug ins that can be mixed. One advantage that the others don't seem to do, is on Freeview, Nebula lets you watch the whole Multiplex, eg I am currently recording CH4, but can change to watch CH4+1, ITV1, More 4, ITV4, E4, CITV at the same time. In fact you can record the whole multiplex at once, (if your HD is big enough!). A pretty good setup is if you have 2 Nebula cards, then you can watch/record 2 full multiplexes of channels at once. Trouble is watching it all!. Also, If your card develops a fault, then Nebula will repair it for you, for about £25. I had a problem with a repaired card, wrote them a letter, and they said "send it in, it will be fixed for free". Its A British Company, a rare thing these days. The software is a bit idiosincratic, but works fairly well, once you understand it. There is also a fairly good independent Forum  http://www.digitv-forum.co.uk that helps out with problems. Quite a few of them run multiple Nebula card systems, so lots of advice, and you can see the problems they have, and how they got around them. Some of the Guys have four or five cards in at once, so that's about 30 channels, you better have a very large HD!. My faulty card is a bit of an exception, there are people still running the original cards. As I said in the begining, trouble is finding enough time to watch all the video you have recorded !!!, just as well plug-in USB Hard drives are so cheap !!!!. Oh I forgot to mention, I use the standard XPpro OS, purely because it can cope with large file systems. The later OS's are a bit of a pain in the ..........
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Heard good things about the Nebula cards. Not sure if they have BDA drivers (required for MCE), as all Nebula users I know use their software.

MCE will not be able to access more than 1 channel per tuner simultaneously.
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Re: Recommendations for MCE....and questions...
« Reply #24 on: 08 October 2007, 11:18:02 »

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hauppage tv cards are really good. I think their new one is a dual freeview digital .

Matt
The trouble with Hauppage is that they're not very standards-compliant.  So they work fine with Hauppage software, but not with anything else.  I have a quad-input Osprey card, which seems compatible with everything I've tried...

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« Reply #25 on: 08 October 2007, 18:33:41 »

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S3, may also be called STR.

Forget the s-video (yellow) input.  Do you have a spare SCART that supports RGB and an ATI VGA card?

Been having another look in the bois and iv found it.... :y

STR changed from disabled to auto

Anything else to change on the page of options..... :-/

Repost video on STR resume - No
Restore on AC/Power Loss - Power off
Ring-in power on - disabled
PCI devices power on - disabled
PS/2 keyboard power on - disabled
RTC Alarm power on - disabled
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« Reply #26 on: 08 October 2007, 18:39:58 »

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You might want to consider Nebula cards. They do both PCI and USB plug ins that can be mixed. One advantage that the others don't seem to do, is on Freeview, Nebula lets you watch the whole Multiplex, eg I am currently recording CH4, but can change to watch CH4+1, ITV1, More 4, ITV4, E4, CITV at the same time. In fact you can record the whole multiplex at once, (if your HD is big enough!). A pretty good setup is if you have 2 Nebula cards, then you can watch/record 2 full multiplexes of channels at once. Trouble is watching it all!. Also, If your card develops a fault, then Nebula will repair it for you, for about £25. I had a problem with a repaired card, wrote them a letter, and they said "send it in, it will be fixed for free". Its A British Company, a rare thing these days. The software is a bit idiosincratic, but works fairly well, once you understand it. There is also a fairly good independent Forum  http://www.digitv-forum.co.uk that helps out with problems. Quite a few of them run multiple Nebula card systems, so lots of advice, and you can see the problems they have, and how they got around them. Some of the Guys have four or five cards in at once, so that's about 30 channels, you better have a very large HD!. My faulty card is a bit of an exception, there are people still running the original cards. As I said in the begining, trouble is finding enough time to watch all the video you have recorded !!!, just as well plug-in USB Hard drives are so cheap !!!!. Oh I forgot to mention, I use the standard XPpro OS, purely because it can cope with large file systems. The later OS's are a bit of a pain in the ..........
Ken  
Heard good things about the Nebula cards. Not sure if they have BDA drivers (required for MCE), as all Nebula users I know use their software.

MCE will not be able to access more than 1 channel per tuner simultaneously.

So if it says on the box....of any manu....summat like "built for XP MCE" i should be ok?
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« Reply #27 on: 08 October 2007, 19:03:44 »

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You might want to consider Nebula cards. They do both PCI and USB plug ins that can be mixed. One advantage that the others don't seem to do, is on Freeview, Nebula lets you watch the whole Multiplex, eg I am currently recording CH4, but can change to watch CH4+1, ITV1, More 4, ITV4, E4, CITV at the same time. In fact you can record the whole multiplex at once, (if your HD is big enough!). A pretty good setup is if you have 2 Nebula cards, then you can watch/record 2 full multiplexes of channels at once. Trouble is watching it all!. Also, If your card develops a fault, then Nebula will repair it for you, for about £25. I had a problem with a repaired card, wrote them a letter, and they said "send it in, it will be fixed for free". Its A British Company, a rare thing these days. The software is a bit idiosincratic, but works fairly well, once you understand it. There is also a fairly good independent Forum  http://www.digitv-forum.co.uk that helps out with problems. Quite a few of them run multiple Nebula card systems, so lots of advice, and you can see the problems they have, and how they got around them. Some of the Guys have four or five cards in at once, so that's about 30 channels, you better have a very large HD!. My faulty card is a bit of an exception, there are people still running the original cards. As I said in the begining, trouble is finding enough time to watch all the video you have recorded !!!, just as well plug-in USB Hard drives are so cheap !!!!. Oh I forgot to mention, I use the standard XPpro OS, purely because it can cope with large file systems. The later OS's are a bit of a pain in the ..........
Ken  
Heard good things about the Nebula cards. Not sure if they have BDA drivers (required for MCE), as all Nebula users I know use their software.

MCE will not be able to access more than 1 channel per tuner simultaneously.

So if it says on the box....of any manu....summat like "built for XP MCE" i should be ok?
The Hauppauge Nova 500 DT say built for MCE. The retail ones are useless with MCE due to standby issues.  Simply cannot recommend them.  Apparently the OEM ones, as they are missing the IR port, are much more stable, though Hauppauge tech support say both cards are identical if external IR not plugged in.
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« Reply #28 on: 08 October 2007, 19:18:43 »

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You might want to consider Nebula cards. They do both PCI and USB plug ins that can be mixed. One advantage that the others don't seem to do, is on Freeview, Nebula lets you watch the whole Multiplex, eg I am currently recording CH4, but can change to watch CH4+1, ITV1, More 4, ITV4, E4, CITV at the same time. In fact you can record the whole multiplex at once, (if your HD is big enough!). A pretty good setup is if you have 2 Nebula cards, then you can watch/record 2 full multiplexes of channels at once. Trouble is watching it all!. Also, If your card develops a fault, then Nebula will repair it for you, for about £25. I had a problem with a repaired card, wrote them a letter, and they said "send it in, it will be fixed for free". Its A British Company, a rare thing these days. The software is a bit idiosincratic, but works fairly well, once you understand it. There is also a fairly good independent Forum  http://www.digitv-forum.co.uk that helps out with problems. Quite a few of them run multiple Nebula card systems, so lots of advice, and you can see the problems they have, and how they got around them. Some of the Guys have four or five cards in at once, so that's about 30 channels, you better have a very large HD!. My faulty card is a bit of an exception, there are people still running the original cards. As I said in the begining, trouble is finding enough time to watch all the video you have recorded !!!, just as well plug-in USB Hard drives are so cheap !!!!. Oh I forgot to mention, I use the standard XPpro OS, purely because it can cope with large file systems. The later OS's are a bit of a pain in the ..........
Ken  
Heard good things about the Nebula cards. Not sure if they have BDA drivers (required for MCE), as all Nebula users I know use their software.

MCE will not be able to access more than 1 channel per tuner simultaneously.

So if it says on the box....of any manu....summat like "built for XP MCE" i should be ok?
The Hauppauge Nova 500 DT say built for MCE. The retail ones are useless with MCE due to standby issues.  Simply cannot recommend them.  Apparently the OEM ones, as they are missing the IR port, are much more stable, though Hauppauge tech support say both cards are identical if external IR not plugged in.

Oh  :(

This is getting difficult now on which cards to go for  :-/
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Re: Recommendations for MCE....and questions...
« Reply #29 on: 08 October 2007, 19:31:54 »

If you have enough slots and enough 5vsb, the single tuner hauppauge ones worked well for me :) - but you need and aerial amp/splitter, as they drag down signal
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