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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #30 on: 01 April 2008, 09:28:42 »
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Is it DEFINATLEY F15 blowing becasue that powers loads of stuff....

Do the wipers operate (looks like it would only affect the rain sensors)
Does the backlight in the headlight switch operate?
Does the engine store/indicate a fault?
Rad fans operating?
Mid operational?

The favourite place to check would be in the engine bay around the ecu box

I guess yours is an auto and hence why the reverse lights are not affected.
back in a mo just check
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #31 on: 01 April 2008, 09:38:08 »
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Is it DEFINATLEY F15 blowing becasue that powers loads of stuff....

Do the wipers operate (looks like it would only affect the rain sensors)
Does the backlight in the headlight switch operate?
Does the engine store/indicate a fault?
Rad fans operating?
Mid operational?
when i check around the engine fuse box etc apart from blown fuses what else am i looking for
The favourite place to check would be in the engine bay around the ecu box

I guess yours is an auto and hence why the reverse lights are not affected.
back in a mo just check
headlight back light u/s
wipers  are ok
mid/engine management don't light up mid/ will light if i turn the side lights on
and its defo fuse 15
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #32 on: 01 April 2008, 09:46:39 »
Ok, does the fuse blow with the climate off?

If it doesn't, try it set to eco....
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #33 on: 01 April 2008, 09:51:52 »
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Ok, does the fuse blow with the climate off?

If it doesn't, try it set to eco....
go and try it now


it blows the fuse  with the climate off or on ,what ive just noticed is that the fuse doesnt blow straight away it takes it a good 10 seconds to blow
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #34 on: 01 April 2008, 10:10:09 »
ive just phoned the sparky to see if he is going to bother to get back in touch,To$$er said he couldn't get any info "how long did it take Mark to find the wiring diagram"
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #35 on: 01 April 2008, 10:17:54 »
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Ok, does the fuse blow with the climate off?

If it doesn't, try it set to eco....
go and try it now


it blows the fuse  with the climate off or on ,what ive just noticed is that the fuse doesnt blow straight away it takes it a good 10 seconds to blow

Can you remove K60 and K52 from the fuse box and re-try?



I hope that image is the right one, the relay colours are correct!
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #36 on: 01 April 2008, 10:29:50 »
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Ok, does the fuse blow with the climate off?

If it doesn't, try it set to eco....
go and try it now


it blows the fuse  with the climate off or on ,what ive just noticed is that the fuse doesnt blow straight away it takes it a good 10 seconds to blow


You could replace the fuse with a 12v bulb, if the bulb is on then you have a short somewhere (you already know this), this will save you replacing the fuse every time. When the lamp is off then the fault has been removed.
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #37 on: 01 April 2008, 10:31:56 »
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Ok, does the fuse blow with the climate off?

If it doesn't, try it set to eco....
go and try it now


it blows the fuse  with the climate off or on ,what ive just noticed is that the fuse doesnt blow straight away it takes it a good 10 seconds to blow


You could replace the fuse with a 12v bulb, if the bulb is on then you have a short somewhere (you already know this), this will save you replacing the fuse every time. When the lamp is off then the fault has been removed.

Ah yes, the old TV diagnosis trick

It would need to be a pretty high wattage one though as this fuse drives a few relays so we need some current getting into the circuit to diag...
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #38 on: 01 April 2008, 10:37:23 »
Couple of headlamp bulbs in parallel or some 12v home halogen lights might do it. Work on one circuit at a time and try to keep everything else on that fuse turned off.

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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #39 on: 01 April 2008, 10:38:32 »
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Couple of headlamp bulbs in parallel or some 12v home halogen lights might do it. Work on one circuit at a time and try to keep everything else on that fuse turned off.

Kevin

Pretty much impossible to keep things on it turned off as its basically the ignition on indication line so feeds lots of bits!
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #40 on: 01 April 2008, 10:47:04 »
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Couple of headlamp bulbs in parallel or some 12v home halogen lights might do it. Work on one circuit at a time and try to keep everything else on that fuse turned off.

Kevin

Pretty much impossible to keep things on it turned off as its basically the ignition on indication line so feeds lots of bits!

The other option is to fit the bulbs, turn on the ignition and work through the wiring diagram unplugging things until the bulbs go dim.

If you keep the major loads turned off I'd have thought most of the ignition feeds would just be driving relays.

Kevin
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #41 on: 01 April 2008, 10:52:38 »
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Ok, does the fuse blow with the climate off?

If it doesn't, try it set to eco....
go and try it now


it blows the fuse  with the climate off or on ,what ive just noticed is that the fuse doesnt blow straight away it takes it a good 10 seconds to blow

Can you remove K60 and K52 from the fuse box and re-try?



I hope that image is the right one, the relay colours are correct!
i dont know what iam looking for Mark or where to look I know jack about car electrics
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #42 on: 01 April 2008, 11:00:29 »
Sorry, my fault.

In the engine bay ECU box (triangular thing on the right of the engine bay).

Pull

Item 5 in the above diagram  - K60 - Colour Green  
Item 17 in the above diagram  - K52 - Colour Brown  
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #43 on: 01 April 2008, 12:11:03 »
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Sorry, my fault.

In the engine bay ECU box (triangular thing on the right of the engine bay).

Pull

Item 5 in the above diagram  - K60 - Colour Green  
Item 17 in the above diagram  - K52 - Colour Brown  
iam going to try it now Mark (i had to get some more fuses)
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Re: Driving along and.....
« Reply #44 on: 01 April 2008, 12:41:09 »
tried them both Mark the fuse still blows
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