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[feeutfo]

nope, it was about 2/3 of a tooth on 1 bank. Easily adjusted.
 Now listen, i am not saying this is the way to go, as i said before, locking tool is a best. I did it this way koz i did not have access to a locking kit, and it worked. Not ideal, and yes your right, i would have prefered a kit. But i had no idea how to get my mits on one at the time. So come on, some credit  please!
  I mean put yourself in my shoes, your cam belt is due, not much cash in me sky, no trust worthy mechanic that i know of and no locking kit. Now, how would you change your belt?
 

 

[JamesV6CDX]

For all my preaching...

Before I knew about this forum, I changed a V6 belt kit without the tools.

I noted where the arrows were on the old idlers and got the new ones in visually the same position.

Must say the car ran fine, and gave great economy with no risk of further cambelt damage...

BUT Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't do this job without the tools. It's the only way to be 100% it's right.

[feeutfo]

A HA! So now we know, its all coming out in the wash :-)
I should have mentioned in first post, i did not know about the forum then and probably should have stressed more caution with this method.
 To all out there reading this, USE CAM LOCKING TOOLS. and get the dvd from the  OOF shop, its only £3, or something silly.
Remember the 6 P,s
Perfect planning prevents piss poor performance!
  Failing that use mole grips... NO! SCRATCH THAT!!
:-):-):-)

[OhmyOmega]

Using mole grips - no thanks.  The walls of the cams are not particularly thick but there is a fair bit of force trying to make them jump out of position so to work the grips would have to be very tight.  If you are really stuck a couple of softwood pegs for each cam - slightly oversize and tapped gently into position would do a better job.  

But honestly - this is not a job to do that way.  It is so easy to get it wrong and then you are in a whole bundle of trouble.

A bad workman blames his tools - but a good workman starts with the right tools!

TTFN

[iggy21uk]

Er, what do you guys think of this tip?
2 pairs of mole grips(cringe, i know, but hear me out) before you take the belt off and the cams fly out of position due to value spring pressure. Take a mole grip and pinch or nip the two cam wheels together at the 3 and 9 clock position, there they meat at the nearest position.
  Do both banks then remove belt. Fit new belt and tensioners re tension roughly, hand crank a rev. re tension to last fraction. Etc etc. Job done.
Now, mole grips will scratch your cam wheels and will put side pressure on the cam wheel bearings, but if you got no locking kit What you think?
 Obviously, buying dvd and locking kit is the way to go but if your desperate.
To late to help the guy in this thread tho
.
  

This was'nt done with mole grips, but same result very likey

[feeutfo]

ok guys, the thread has moved on a bit, do try to keep up. I notice, nobody has answered the,
"what would you do in my shoes?" Question.  Come on, no cash, no mechanic, no locking kit. How do you change your cam belt?
  However your point about the "peg" reminded me, (its over a year ago you know) we used a similar idea to stop the wheels being stressed to much when clamped, but i am not going into it as i would be deemed as promoting the whole thing. I really should thinks these things through.
 So come on, answer the question if you can,bet you cant.
 No cash, no mechanic, no lock kit...

[TheBoy]

ok guys, the thread has moved on a bit, do try to keep up. I notice, nobody has answered the,
"what would you do in my shoes?" Question.  Come on, no cash, no mechanic, no locking kit. How do you change your cam belt?
  However your point about the "peg" reminded me, (its over a year ago you know) we used a similar idea to stop the wheels being stressed to much when clamped, but i am not going into it as i would be deemed as promoting the whole thing. I really should thinks these things through.
 So come on, answer the question if you can,bet you cant.
 No cash, no mechanic, no lock kit...

Hire/borrow/steal a locking kit. No other way to get it right.  If done without, you'll need to redo anyway...

[Entwood]

ok guys, the thread has moved on a bit, do try to keep up. I notice, nobody has answered the,
"what would you do in my shoes?" Question.  Come on, no cash, no mechanic, no locking kit. How do you change your cam belt?
  However your point about the "peg" reminded me, (its over a year ago you know) we used a similar idea to stop the wheels being stressed to much when clamped, but i am not going into it as i would be deemed as promoting the whole thing. I really should thinks these things through.
 So come on, answer the question if you can,bet you cant.
 No cash, no mechanic, no lock kit...

If you can't afford to do it properly, don't do it.. the risks are far too high, and the cost of failure = a new engine

[feeutfo]

cop outs, the lot of ya. Agree totally, but i still dont see anybody answering the guestion! Come on, Ya wimps. Stop dancing round it.;-)
:-):-):-):-)

[Entwood]

I believe I answered ..... you do it properly or you don't do it . end of.

[feeutfo]

come on Enty. Your on a dessert island...
You, ve got your omega a cam belt kit and basic tools, but no locking kit. What ya gonna do? And no ya cant bring your caravan.  ;-)
 

[Albatross]

come on Enty. Your on a dessert island...
You, ve got your omega a cam belt kit and basic tools, but no locking kit. What ya gonna do? And no ya cant bring your caravan.  ;-)
 

Antagonistic ain't ya?

I'd try turning the car upside down and waterproofing it to see if I could make a raft.

You certainly wouldn't be able to rack up enough miles to worry about your cam-belt, nor do you have far to go before you run out of petrol anyway, so pointless argument IMHO

[Entwood]

come on Enty. Your on a dessert island...
You, ve got your omega a cam belt kit and basic tools, but no locking kit. What ya gonna do? And no ya cant bring your caravan.  ;-)
 

Park up, get the local "dusky maiden" to pour me a very pleasant cocktail,  relax and enjoy the sunshine ..

Who the hell wants to change a cam belt on a desert island ??  

 

[Albatross]

Dessert: A course of a meal, normally sweet and taken toward the latter part of the meal.

Desert: An expanse of barren land, usually made up of sand and little vegetation.

If I were on a dessert island I'd be eating it and a little worried that it were going to dissolve.

[feeutfo]

hope not to antagonise, sorry if post is late, but i cant see the screen for tears of laughter. Nice one. Ok i'll go away now. Mrs wants to join the forum, so she can tell me dinners in the dog, bed with no desert for me !:-(
;-)