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[justme]

Windows has never beem any diffrent, they have to release it to get it to work proparly.

Mac's are modified unix based

[theolodian]

i have been running vista ultimate from when it first came out. Never had a problem!

Runs much better than xp imo and yeah its memory hungry but just add an extra 1gb over what you would run xp on and thats it.

Macs are good , just not as software ready as windows.

Matt

I bet as much software runs on Macs as Vista.  The distinct advantage of Macs is that you can run OSX, Linux, XP, and Vista all on the same machine so if something works in one but not the other then all you have to do is reboot (not even that in some cases).  This new Dell 13" laptop will only run Vista . . .

[Jay w]

i'm not computer genius and i aqdapted to the Mac within hours  

Technically they are brilliant, they look the part and function soooooooo much better than windows, although i have bought parallels and installed XP as SAGE will not run on Mac  

With mac it is all plug and play, no drivers, no messing it just does it, i have the intel mini mac and it knocks the spots off a higher spec windows machine, and it quieter, faster and boots up in no time

Slowly i am binning my windows stuff and moving to Mac, although my phone may be the last to change

[theolodian]

Windows has never beem any diffrent, they have to release it to get it to work proparly.

Mac's are modified unix based

If you could still get XP on most new computers then I wouldn't be so bothered.

[theolodian]

i have been running vista ultimate from when it first came out. Never had a problem!

Runs much better than xp imo and yeah its memory hungry but just add an extra 1gb over what you would run xp on and thats it.

Macs are good , just not as software ready as windows.

Matt

Now you see, that goes straight over my head

Vista needs a lot more from the computer, especially RAM.  This is mainly due to trying to protect DVD's and other complete BS, despite the fact that DRM is going the way of the Do Do - at least for music.  MS took so long to get Vista out that the core technology is out of step with the market.

[cdx estate omega]

Another mac owner over here, I have three of them!  I think they are great, I fix PC's for a living, and I dont want to do it when I get home, the macs just work and are so nice to use.

Looking forward to getting OS 10.5 Leopard tomorrow, I very much doubt there will be any compatibility issues with this new operating system like there have been and still are with that shambles of an operating system that is called Vista.

To say I dislike Vista is an understatement.  Sorry to anyone reading this who likes it, there are just to many poor attempts of copying OSX useful features (ie. Gadgets) for my liking.

[omegalord]

I love mac's. They do run really good and are definitely visually better. A pc can run the same a mac can as. I know of a few people who have run osx on a pc aswell as linux and windows. It was unheard of when macs used the powerpc architecture but now it uses x86 intel its quite easy.

I think macs are catching up with software , but there is alot of software that i use that macs dont do at the moment so if i did convert over to a mac i would have to use bootcamp to run vista aswell.

Personally i think a time will come when microsoft and apple merge (yes ill be shot down on this but its my opinion and im sticking to it )

Miccrosoft definitely copied things fromosx to make vista what it is now (gadgets etc)


Matt

[omegalord]

It also depends what you use it for. I run my business from my pc so converting over to a mac would be a huge thing for me. Someone who just surfs the internet aint gonna care about the differences between safari and ie7

Matt

[theolodian]

i'm not computer genius and i aqdapted to the Mac within hours  

Technically they are brilliant, they look the part and function soooooooo much better than windows, although i have bought parallels and installed XP as SAGE will not run on Mac  

With mac it is all plug and play, no drivers, no messing it just does it, i have the intel mini mac and it knocks the spots off a higher spec windows machine, and it quieter, faster and boots up in no time

Slowly i am binning my windows stuff and moving to Mac, although my phone may be the last to change

I will say that Safari is pretty bad, and you can't use some of the more esoteric USB stuff from Parallels (VM's don't give good timing control over hardware).

[omegalord]

Safari is basic to say the least.

I think the greatness of macs is to use them for music

Matt

[theolodian]

Another mac owner over here, I have three of them!  I think they are great, I fix PC's for a living, and I dont want to do it when I get home, the macs just work and are so nice to use.

Looking forward to getting OS 10.5 Leopard tomorrow, I very much doubt there will be any compatibility issues with this new operating system like there have been and still are with that shambles of an operating system that is called Vista.

To say I dislike Vista is an understatement.  Sorry to anyone reading this who likes it, there are just to many poor attempts of copying OSX useful features (ie. Gadgets) for my liking.

Yes, the good things about Vista are where they copy the Mac.  The real crime though is that it took until Windows 95 for MS to match the first Macs that were released in 1984.  Do the math, it's pathetic beyond words.

[theolodian]

Safari is basic to say the least.

I think the greatness of macs is to use them for music

Matt

Safari crashes on me every week or so.

[omegalord]

IMO the perfect computer would have the mac platform, the mac look, the windows compatibility with software, the hacking/cracking of windows, the stability of osx or linux and the cheapness of a pc and the speed of a quadcore core 2 due

Matt

[justme]

I love mac's. They do run really good and are definitely visually better. A pc can run the same a mac can as. I know of a few people who have run osx on a pc aswell as linux and windows. It was unheard of when macs used the powerpc architecture but now it uses x86 intel its quite easy.

I think macs are catching up with software , but there is alot of software that i use that macs dont do at the moment so if i did convert over to a mac i would have to use bootcamp to run vista aswell.

Personally i think a time will come when microsoft and apple merge (yes ill be shot down on this but its my opinion and im sticking to it )

Miccrosoft definitely copied things fromosx to make vista what it is now (gadgets etc)


Matt

Where do you think windows came from. It certainly was not bill gates or ms. It was as a result of Jobs making a huge blunder, in asking a mr gates to do some coding for apple. having seen the coding windows was born. Gates having done exact;y the same with dos before hand.

[theolodian]

I love mac's. They do run really good and are definitely visually better. A pc can run the same a mac can as. I know of a few people who have run osx on a pc aswell as linux and windows. It was unheard of when macs used the powerpc architecture but now it uses x86 intel its quite easy.

I think macs are catching up with software , but there is alot of software that i use that macs dont do at the moment so if i did convert over to a mac i would have to use bootcamp to run vista aswell.

Personally i think a time will come when microsoft and apple merge (yes ill be shot down on this but its my opinion and im sticking to it )

Miccrosoft definitely copied things fromosx to make vista what it is now (gadgets etc)


Matt

Where do you think windows came from. It certainly was not bill gates or ms. It was as a result of Jobs making a huge blunder, in asking a mr gates to do some coding for apple. having seen the coding windows was born. Gates having done exact;y the same with dos before hand.

Well, its not like Apple invented the concept.  What's so frustrating is that for how good MS is a maintaining a monopoly they can't be better/quicker at copying.  Also they create a ton of stuff that isn't that great in order to compete with everybody, instead of getting the basic mass market stuff right.  We'll see if the EU ruling makes a difference, I doubt it.