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Re: Lower wishbones?
« Reply #15 on: 16 September 2008, 20:23:43 »
Sorry for the wrong terminology. I meant the waisted pin that is connected to the ball joint and sits in the hub carrier, eventually. The same one that pinches the bolt on removal so you can't get it out and sits too deep in the hole so you can't get the bolt back in afterwards.

If someone can give me the correct terminology I would be grateful.

In the meantime - I still think it should start with 'King' given the royal pain in the arse it creates  :)
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« Reply #16 on: 16 September 2008, 20:39:02 »
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same difference - kingpin was a pin in ye olden days but still refered to as KPI 'King Pin Inclination' in suspension design - basicaly the hub carrier / upright is the Kingpin :y
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingpin_(automotive_part)


They're completely differnt from each other. Kingpin angle is still refered to but no cars now use a kingpin.

Well, someone needs to phone up wheels in motion and tell them they dont know what they are talking about then, because thats what wim called it a king pin at the knowledge day.
 
  

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« Reply #17 on: 16 September 2008, 20:58:47 »
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Well, someone needs to phone up wheels in motion and tell them they dont know what they are talking about then, because thats what wim called it a king pin at the knowledge day.
 
  


People still refer to wing mirrors, fan belts, pulling the chain etc etc, but your Omega doesn't have a kingpin. A kingpin angle but not a kingpin.
I'm sure that Tony(?) from WIM will agree.
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« Reply #18 on: 16 September 2008, 20:59:34 »
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same difference - kingpin was a pin in ye olden days but still refered to as KPI 'King Pin Inclination' in suspension design - basicaly the hub carrier / upright is the Kingpin :y
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingpin_(automotive_part)


They're completely differnt from each other. Kingpin angle is still refered to but no cars now use a kingpin.

No they're not - essentialy the "kingpin" is the axis formed by the hub carrier and strut pivoting between the bottom balljoint and the strut top mount. (on a mcpherson strut type setup)

have a read of this and you'll understand how the kingpin inclination effects suspension control:
http://www.amazon.com/Competition-Car-Suspension-practical-handbook/dp/1844253287/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221594922&sr=8-2  ;)

agreed they haven't got an actual kingpin but still does the same thing :y
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« Reply #19 on: 16 September 2008, 21:22:03 »
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agreed they haven't got an actual kingpin but still does the same thing :y

Which was what I said in the very first place.  :)  The original mention of kingpin actually related to the bottom ball joint.  :y
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« Reply #20 on: 16 September 2008, 21:23:47 »
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I have red the how to on replacing the lower wishbones and drop links, but there is no mention on how long it should take for each side. It takes me approx 5 hours. Is this the norm or should it be less?

TIA  :y

Paul  :y

i managed to do a bottom arm or wishbone which ever you want to called it in around 20 mins to half hour
but had not truble with the bolts bit of grunt and they came undun
took just over an hour to do both sides thats with taking the wheels on and off
(oh and no tea breaks lol)
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« Reply #21 on: 16 September 2008, 21:33:47 »
Just got a quote to do the the wish bone bushes etc £157.00. Cheap?  :-/ Got to better than 5 hours fighting a king pin :y
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« Reply #22 on: 16 September 2008, 21:35:46 »
i got my wishbones at £30 each for delphi with the vat
at trade discount and extra discount knocked off lol not saying how
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« Reply #23 on: 16 September 2008, 21:41:18 »
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i got my wishbones at £30 each for delphi with the vat
at trade discount and extra discount knocked off lol not saying how
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so that means I'm paying £100 for fitting. I'm happy with that after reading the probs the other guys have had ;)
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« Reply #24 on: 16 September 2008, 21:44:23 »
i never had any probs
quite straight forward
ive been doing stuff like that all my life working in a garage since i was 14
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« Reply #25 on: 16 September 2008, 21:48:39 »
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i never had any probs
quite straight forward
ive been doing stuff like that all my life working in a garage since i was 14
I think I am getting to old to scrabble underneath cars now. :-[ Used to love it as it saved a fortune, but not now although I love my Omegas. ;)
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« Reply #26 on: 16 September 2008, 21:50:51 »
shame u didnt live closer i would of gladly gid you a hand to get them done and sorted as now i dont work would of gid me something to pass the time while the other half was in work
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« Reply #27 on: 16 September 2008, 21:54:00 »
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I think I am getting to old to scrabble underneath cars now. :-[ Used to love it as it saved a fortune, but not now although I love my Omegas. ;)

My Dad's 71 now & still crawls about under his car.  :y
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I think I am getting to old to scrabble underneath cars now. :-[ Used to love it as it saved a fortune, but not now although I love my Omegas. ;)

My Dad's 71 now & still crawls about under his car.  :y
Spose your right, my dads 90 and still tinkers with his car. Ok, but I'm not a mechanic and maybe just a tad bone idol ::)
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I think I am getting to old to scrabble underneath cars now. :-[ Used to love it as it saved a fortune, but not now although I love my Omegas. ;)

My Dad's 71 now & still crawls about under his car.  :y
Spose your right, my dads 90 and still tinkers with his car. Ok, but I'm not a mechanic and maybe just a tad bone idol ::)
While I was answering you my wife said "Yes, you are bone idol " Wonen!!!! They just don't understand ::)
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