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[Lazydocker]

Or the easiest way to do split the ball joint is with a ball joint splitter! The type that are a wedge shaped fork. At the end of the day you are replacing it if you're fitting new 'bones so it doesn't matter if the boot splits!

[iggy21uk]

Just got a quote to do the the wish bone bushes etc £157.00. Cheap?  :-/ Got to better than 5 hours fighting a king pin

£19 for bushes(thanks to iggy21) , some postage(£4iirc), and a phew beers for Mr DTM(in the process of sorting that). With help from ians to bring the pressed wishbones back from Newent. The mighty oof at work, cant beat it.
I have my old wishbones here if anybody want to press some new bushes into them and have them ready to fit to the car.

Think it was more than £19.00 unless I underchaged u

[Marks DTM Calib]

I have found the wedge type splitters problematic with this setup (i.e. on the ones you really cant split it dont work  )......plus if your re-bushing the wishbones then its not to be recommended

[Kevin Wood]

I have found the wedge type splitters problematic with this setup (i.e. on the ones you really cant split it dont work  )......plus if your re-bushing the wishbones then its not to be recommended

It certainly didn't work too well on one of James' wishbones (other one was OK), and it will muller the bottom balljoint.

Kevin

[feeutfo]

Just got a quote to do the the wish bone bushes etc £157.00. Cheap?  :-/ Got to better than 5 hours fighting a king pin

£19 for bushes(thanks to iggy21) , some postage(£4iirc), and a phew beers for Mr DTM(in the process of sorting that). With help from ians to bring the pressed wishbones back from Newent. The mighty oof at work, cant beat it.
I have my old wishbones here if anybody want to press some new bushes into them and have them ready to fit to the car.

Think it was more than £19.00 unless I underchaged u

Oh ok may have been, my mad cows disease is getting the better of me.(Moooo)
Edited.
How much did you get a set for iggy?

[alexandjen]

The best method I find (personaly) for splitting the ball joint is to:

1) Treat with a good penetrant (and WD40 is crap at this!)

2) Tap a small chisel into the hub pinch point to spread it slightly (dont go over the top!)

3) Apply a long lever to the base of the hub pinch point which levers against the end of the wishbone/ball joint assembly.

4) Strike the lever with a heavy hammer close to the ball joint to free the assembly.

5) Now use a long 1/2 inch extension (or other suitable drift) parralel to the strutt (feed it through the maze of pipes and wires so it touches the end of the wishbone/ball joint casting) to tap the ball joint the final 10-15mm out (it takes very little effort at this point, if its still tight repeat the lever trick)

I take it you do this after removing the pinch bolt :-/

[alexandjen]

I read up lots about doing wishbones before i did mine, getting the ball joint pinch bolt off and re-locating the rear wishbone mounting bolt seem to be the usual problems. As does the fact that both the wishbone bold heads and nuts are both 21mm (who of us diy'ers has two 21mm sockets?)

I used a smear of copper grease on the inner surface of the subframe mountings and a little bit on the rear bearing steel insert, made it easy to line up, especially if you used the bolt inserted from underneath and whacked it in with a hammer first to line up the joint (you are replacing the bolts anyhow aren't you!!)

Pinch bolt was my problem, had to take the brake calliper and calliper mounting off first to get an 18mm socket on it squarely, easy enough to do, but annoying delay.

And a 13/16th AF socket fits better than a metric one on the 21mm main bolts anyhow  

Mine took me 3 months to do! is that a record?

Got to do mine soon, would appreciate a list of tools required so I don't get caught out

The pinch bolt nut is 18mm which many socket sets don't have.  I would recommend a hardened (black) socket as I managed to split my normal one (Halfords replaced it no quibbles ) the first time I did a wb.

The wishbone comes out and goes in much easier if its horizontal - which means getting the hub gubbins out of the way - hence discussion on spring compressors, removing the caliper (improves access to the pinch bolt too) and jacking on the hub.

From memory and in no particular order,
Torque wrench with 120nm range. But one with a short handle would be handy if there is such a thing.
2  21mm sockets (or 1 socket and 1 spanner.)for bush bolts.
18 mil socket and spanner for pinch bolt(cant remember if pinch bolt and nut are the same size.) i did not remove the hub and caliper so did not use any tools for them.
A hammer and wedge head cold chisel to spread
The ball joint/king pin clamp.
Penetrating oil, plus gas or wd 40.
A long  punch to reach the king pin and belt it out from the top while jacked from the bottom to hold the wishbone up.

Thanks Chris

[Marks DTM Calib]

The best method I find (personaly) for splitting the ball joint is to:

1) Treat with a good penetrant (and WD40 is crap at this!)

2) Tap a small chisel into the hub pinch point to spread it slightly (dont go over the top!)

3) Apply a long lever to the base of the hub pinch point which levers against the end of the wishbone/ball joint assembly.

4) Strike the lever with a heavy hammer close to the ball joint to free the assembly.

5) Now use a long 1/2 inch extension (or other suitable drift) parralel to the strutt (feed it through the maze of pipes and wires so it touches the end of the wishbone/ball joint casting) to tap the ball joint the final 10-15mm out (it takes very little effort at this point, if its still tight repeat the lever trick)

I take it you do this after removing the pinch bolt :-/

Yep

[alexandjen]

The best method I find (personaly) for splitting the ball joint is to:

1) Treat with a good penetrant (and WD40 is crap at this!)

2) Tap a small chisel into the hub pinch point to spread it slightly (dont go over the top!)

3) Apply a long lever to the base of the hub pinch point which levers against the end of the wishbone/ball joint assembly.

4) Strike the lever with a heavy hammer close to the ball joint to free the assembly.

5) Now use a long 1/2 inch extension (or other suitable drift) parralel to the strutt (feed it through the maze of pipes and wires so it touches the end of the wishbone/ball joint casting) to tap the ball joint the final 10-15mm out (it takes very little effort at this point, if its still tight repeat the lever trick)

I take it you do this after removing the pinch bolt :-/

Yep

Ta

Is it possible to remove the pinch bolt and wishbone without removing the caliper?

[splott]

Said yesterday £157.00 that was fitted. Why all the agro buying ball joint splitters, 120mm sockets and sitting on a cold floor for an average of 5 hours. I no my wife says I'm know my wife said I was bone idol but lets put it in perspective. Is it worth the grief for 157 squids :-?

[alexandjen]

Said yesterday £157.00 that was fitted. Why all the agro buying ball joint splitters, 120mm sockets and sitting on a cold floor for an average of 5 hours. I no my wife says I'm know my wife said I was bone idol but lets put it in perspective. Is it worth the grief for 157 squids :-?

It is if you haven't got £157 to pay someone to fit them

[splott]

Said yesterday £157.00 that was fitted. Why all the agro buying ball joint splitters, 120mm sockets and sitting on a cold floor for an average of 5 hours. I no my wife says I'm know my wife said I was bone idol but lets put it in perspective. Is it worth the grief for 157 squids :-?

It is if you haven't got £157 to pay someone to fit them

Point taken, apoligies

[iggy21uk]

Just got a quote to do the the wish bone bushes etc £157.00. Cheap?  :-/ Got to better than 5 hours fighting a king pin

£19 for bushes(thanks to iggy21) , some postage(£4iirc), and a phew beers for Mr DTM(in the process of sorting that). With help from ians to bring the pressed wishbones back from Newent. The mighty oof at work, cant beat it.
I have my old wishbones here if anybody want to press some new bushes into them and have them ready to fit to the car.

Think it was more than £19.00 unless I underchaged u

Oh ok may have been, my mad cows disease is getting the better of me.(Moooo)
Edited.
How much did you get a set for iggy?

2 x £9.00 + 2  x £5.00 + vat - plus you came a got them ?

Unless I have the MOO MOO problem . BAA  

[feeutfo]

ar they come in "2s",  at last someone who talks my language.  
So 28 mooo baas then.  

[iggy21uk]

ar they come in "2s",  at last someone who talks my language.  
So 28 mooo baas then.  

Cluck !!! oinK !!!