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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #45 on: 06 November 2007, 07:41:39 »

It may have been useful to me as I live 10 mins from Cannock, but it is a 2.0  :(
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #46 on: 07 November 2007, 15:27:53 »

It occurred to me that if we are going to have an LPG party (which hopefully will be the case :)) perhaps those interested ought to list their areas of concern / parts they do not feel that confident about so that we can do the necessary research prior to the event?  I do not want to tread on anyone's toes, cause offence etc.

My concerns are as follows:

1.  Fitting the injectors - specifically drilling the inlet manifold and making the necessary threads
2.  The wiring of the LPG ecu and interfacing with the existing ecu
3.  Fitting the LPG filler in the bodywork
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #47 on: 07 November 2007, 15:46:23 »

Well, I can help with drilling/tapping/mounting of fillers etc. I'm a Mechanical Design Engineer.

I'll be at the party (so long as it isn't a million miles away).
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #48 on: 07 November 2007, 16:07:55 »

I'm not too shabby at electronics so I have no real worries about that area. Have also played around with fuel injection systems a bit, and mapped a few of these systems so I know what makes them tick. Principles are the same for SGI.

I have done my fair share of drilling and tapping, making holes in bodywork, etc. in the past. I prefer it if it's my own bodywork, tbh, but I'm happy to loan people hole saws, taps, dies, drills, etc and stand back.  ;D

A good idea to mention the areas where we have concerns and the areas where we may be able to help each other out :y

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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #49 on: 07 November 2007, 16:44:22 »

I think my main concern is getting the system running properly before something gets damaged.
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #50 on: 07 November 2007, 17:21:16 »

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Kevin,

Can the supplier supply the cylinder type tanks?  I am not too concerned about boot space and range on LPG is more important to me as no stations near me stock LPG :(

Your idea about the LED replacement bulbs is a good one although, as you say, a series resistor will no doubt be required.

I am defiantly up for this and look forward more information.

Well, apparently this lot do:

Shell - Pinner
Shell - Sunbury
BP - Ashford Connect
BP - Perivale S/Stn
BP - Hatton Cross Connect
BP - Heston Services Eastbound
BP - Heston Services Westbound
BP - Victoria Road Filling Station
BP - Bessborough Connect
BP - Yeading Connect
Jet - Herds Filling Station
Pace - Southall
Texaco Harlington

And for anyone else who is interested, you can find your local LPG station here.

Hope this helps.  :y
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #51 on: 07 November 2007, 17:29:13 »

Looking at this, I'd be interested in doing my 2.2. Travel not a problem but I really wouldn't know where to start with the install. I can understand that it may be impractical to do several cars in a day so what would be the options? And, where would the facilities be available to do the work?

Perhaps this would be a job better suited to the summer when there is plenty of light?
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #52 on: 07 November 2007, 18:08:33 »

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I think my main concern is getting the system running properly before something gets damaged.

You have to try hard to damage an engine. As long as you get the mixture right under light load / idling conditions before you start giving it large it will be fine.

Most LPG installers probably don't do much more than run the self-adjustment procedure on the SGI system. This is Ok to determine the mixture at idle but they probably end up with no idea what's happening at wide open throttle and high revs as this requires a rolling road and / or a wideband Lambda sensor. The dangerous scenario is that the SGI system can't deliver enough gas and the mixture goes lean just when it needs to be quite rich to prevent knock and keep temperatures under control.

If we want to get really involved I have a wideband Lambda sensor which I would rig up to plug into an Omega. It will take some doing (just accessing the sensor is not that easy on a V6) but I'm sure we can do just as good a job setting it up as a "professional" would. In any case, we need to get the systems commissioned / certified so we could entrust the setting-up to whoever does that.

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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #53 on: 07 November 2007, 18:52:32 »

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Looking at this, I'd be interested in doing my 2.2. Travel not a problem but I really wouldn't know where to start with the install. I can understand that it may be impractical to do several cars in a day so what would be the options? And, where would the facilities be available to do the work?

Perhaps this would be a job better suited to the summer when there is plenty of light?


Don't you dare suggest I do it while on holiday ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #54 on: 07 November 2007, 19:13:18 »

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Looking at this, I'd be interested in doing my 2.2. Travel not a problem but I really wouldn't know where to start with the install. I can understand that it may be impractical to do several cars in a day so what would be the options? And, where would the facilities be available to do the work?

Perhaps this would be a job better suited to the summer when there is plenty of light?


Don't you dare suggest I do it while on holiday ;D ;D ;D ;D

Now, there's a thought.  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #55 on: 08 November 2007, 14:45:51 »

So what's the word on the street? Is this a goer?
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #56 on: 08 November 2007, 15:16:02 »

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Kevin,

Can the supplier supply the cylinder type tanks?  I am not too concerned about boot space and range on LPG is more important to me as no stations near me stock LPG :(

Your idea about the LED replacement bulbs is a good one although, as you say, a series resistor will no doubt be required.

I am defiantly up for this and look forward more information.

Well, apparently this lot do:

Shell - Pinner
Shell - Sunbury
BP - Ashford Connect
BP - Perivale S/Stn
BP - Hatton Cross Connect
BP - Heston Services Eastbound
BP - Heston Services Westbound
BP - Victoria Road Filling Station
BP - Bessborough Connect
BP - Yeading Connect
Jet - Herds Filling Station
Pace - Southall
Texaco Harlington

And for anyone else who is interested, you can find your local LPG station here.

Hope this helps.  :y

Cheers for the list  ;)  I know that the BP Yeading connect do LPG but they are expensive compared to other stations.  I will use my usual filling point in Watford.  I still think a long range tank is better as I hate having to keep worrying about filling up.

That link is very useful though - particularly when travelling to another area.
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #57 on: 08 November 2007, 15:16:55 »

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So what's the word on the street? Is this a goer?

Hopefully in the not too distant future, it will be a goer!
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #58 on: 08 November 2007, 18:04:02 »

best place to start is by getting hold of an inlet manifold and get it drilled/tapped for the nozzels
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« Reply #59 on: 08 November 2007, 18:14:36 »

ok...WANTED - Inlet Manifold for 3.0  ;) PM me.
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