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[jjleonard]

Good all round tyre for the price, exceptional grip in the dry, above average in the wet, and quiet, never use them on the mig yet, but on my Volvo 850R I get around 4000 miles out of them before there shreaded, which is good.  

I do hope you're caning your car then, because 4k miles would mean I'm changing all four tyres every two months, and that ISN'T good!  

[pauldmackay]

I've heard good things about these too - funny that, I'm about to get a full set too!

Web reviews are very complimentary of these - apparently similar in performance to the Toyo Proxes T1-R.

Side walls on these far too soft, used them before and you can tell it's a problem straight away, no such issues with the Falken, currently using Kumho Ecsta, do a google search ther are very, very good too.

[alexandjen]

Good all round tyre for the price, exceptional grip in the dry, above average in the wet, and quiet, never use them on the mig yet, but on my Volvo 850R I get around 4000 miles out of them before there shreaded, which is good.  

Is that a typo

[pauldmackay]

Good all round tyre for the price, exceptional grip in the dry, above average in the wet, and quiet, never use them on the mig yet, but on my Volvo 850R I get around 4000 miles out of them before there shreaded, which is good.  

I do hope you're caning your car then, because 4k miles would mean I'm changing all four tyres every two months, and that ISN'T good!  

Nope, just average wear for the 850R, front wheel drive and 250BHP eats tyres, thats just normal for these, used many brands of tyres and Falken is what I've use for around the last 5-6 years, should do around 13,000-15000 on a mig.

[jjleonard]

Good all round tyre for the price, exceptional grip in the dry, above average in the wet, and quiet, never use them on the mig yet, but on my Volvo 850R I get around 4000 miles out of them before there shreaded, which is good.  

I do hope you're caning your car then, because 4k miles would mean I'm changing all four tyres every two months, and that ISN'T good!  

Nope, just average wear for the 850R, front wheel drive and 250BHP eats tyres, thats just normal for these, used many brands of tyres and Falken is what I've use for around the last 5-6 years, should do around 13,000-15000 on a mig.

Thank christ for that.  

[alexandjen]

Good all round tyre for the price, exceptional grip in the dry, above average in the wet, and quiet, never use them on the mig yet, but on my Volvo 850R I get around 4000 miles out of them before there shreaded, which is good.  

I do hope you're caning your car then, because 4k miles would mean I'm changing all four tyres every two months, and that ISN'T good!  

Nope, just average wear for the 850R, front wheel drive and 250BHP eats tyres, thats just normal for these, used many brands of tyres and Falken is what I've use for around the last 5-6 years, should do around 13,000-15000 on a mig.

Phew, that's more like it, should last about 5 years with the little mileage mine does

[feeutfo]

Er right, where to start...i have the 912s and had the 452s on my old mig.  Basically they tick most of  the boxs in my book, wet and dry grip is good, they are quiet and last ok but not as long as Pipelli p 6000s but are cheaper,also they seem to give a supple ride, and therein lies the problem imho, the carcus/construction.

I should say this is not confirmed but i beleive they have a problem with tram lining, both the 452s and the 912s. My evidence? Well more reliably a mate has BMW E39 with michelins, he drove his mates E39 with Falkens and found them awfull by comparison, inaccurate and wayward on the motorway and a hand full on bumpy back roads. The two cars have had extensive bush and controle arm work done as they are sensative to bush play. They are both up on all their maintenance.

I have had a devil of a job with very similar handling issues, and have replaced all the bushes with firmer items on my car. The symptoms remain. A visit to Kevin Wood for a tech2 session turned into a test drive of each others cars. His has Dunlop sport max 2s iirc and tracks as straight and true as any car i have driven, he says he suspects his wishbones or tires are about to go. Yet his mv6 is 50 times more accurate than my elite with new bushes all round new rear shocks and springs and new tires, its arm had wim set up and inspection for steering idler springs etc. I cant see mv6 suspension making any difference to side ways movement with  my Elite suspension. So i lay the blame fairly and squarely with the tyres on my car, 912s. I had the 452 s on my old car and found them similarly wayward. Basically it feels like your driving in a constant crosswind, they seem to pick up every imperfection and over react. I have since pumped them up to 36psi to keep the buggers straight and this has helped alot but the ride is now too harsh.

I hope to prove this by swapping wheels with different tyres on and feel the car transform. I hope so or i have bought a cut and shut bendy bus.
From my experience, i would say avoid, but the member above seems happy with them.

[bigdods]

My Elite also has a tendency to wander around a bit. Its done it on Michelins , 452's and 912's, all felt exactly the same. I dont get this problem on either my VW Golf or my TVR wich also have 452's on.

I did have a severe tramlining problem for a while which turned out to be geometry fixed by WIM  

[feeutfo]

My Elite also has a tendency to wander around a bit. Its done it on Michelins , 452's and 912's, all felt exactly the same. I dont get this problem on either my VW Golf or my TVR wich also have 452's on.

I did have a severe tramlining problem for a while which turned out to be geometry fixed by WIM  

What tyre size and pressures you running on the omega?

[Jimbob]

I was just about to order them off blackcircles - or get them fitted at WIM before getting the geometry done - but the camskill site shows the cheapest price I've ever seen for them! - well worth buying four, getting them delivered, and chucking them in the car to get fitted at WIM (to be fair, I haven't checked how much they'd charge to fit them).

Wim will recommend doing the geometry 1st, as it is more accurate as all the suspension is loaded as it has been driven, loads change one you take the wheels off which can take a little while to settle in again.

I had tyres and geometry twice at wim, they have done geometry 1st both times.

[bigdods]

My Elite also has a tendency to wander around a bit. Its done it on Michelins , 452's and 912's, all felt exactly the same. I dont get this problem on either my VW Golf or my TVR wich also have 452's on.

I did have a severe tramlining problem for a while which turned out to be geometry fixed by WIM  

What tyre size and pressures you running on the omega?

Standard size tyres 235/45 17 at 32psi. Havent tried experimenting with the pressures on the 912's as my tyre guage has broken....

[HerefordElite]

got 225/50/16 FK452 fitted to mine - bought from Camskill and fitted locally.

Grip seems preaty good and they wearing ok so i'd recommend them as a decent budget performance tyre

[feeutfo]

My Elite also has a tendency to wander around a bit. Its done it on Michelins , 452's and 912's, all felt exactly the same. I dont get this problem on either my VW Golf or my TVR wich also have 452's on.

I did have a severe tramlining problem for a while which turned out to be geometry fixed by WIM  

What tyre size and pressures you running on the omega?

Standard size tyres 235/45 17 at 32psi. Havent tried experimenting with the pressures on the 912's as my tyre guage has broken....

Thanks for coming back with info.
A bit concerning to me as i started with exact same psi and the size is the same.
I have issues and you dont.

[Marks DTM Calib]

My Elite also has a tendency to wander around a bit. Its done it on Michelins , 452's and 912's, all felt exactly the same. I dont get this problem on either my VW Golf or my TVR wich also have 452's on.

I did have a severe tramlining problem for a while which turned out to be geometry fixed by WIM  

What tyre size and pressures you running on the omega?

Standard size tyres 235/45 17 at 32psi. Havent tried experimenting with the pressures on the 912's as my tyre guage has broken....

Thanks for coming back with info.
A bit concerning to me as i started with exact same psi and the size is the same.
I have issues and you dont.

Yes, and he has 16's and you have 17's!

[bigdods]

My Elite also has a tendency to wander around a bit. Its done it on Michelins , 452's and 912's, all felt exactly the same. I dont get this problem on either my VW Golf or my TVR wich also have 452's on.

I did have a severe tramlining problem for a while which turned out to be geometry fixed by WIM  

What tyre size and pressures you running on the omega?

Standard size tyres 235/45 17 at 32psi. Havent tried experimenting with the pressures on the 912's as my tyre guage has broken....

Thanks for coming back with info.
A bit concerning to me as i started with exact same psi and the size is the same.
I have issues and you dont.

I do have issues , the Omega wanders around a bit and needs regular small steering corrections (but its not so bad that its a real concern). Its not the falkens as it did it with the michelins too. I had theboy turn down the power assitance on the steering which has improved it a bit. New front wishbones and new rear springs havent made any difference. Steering idler, box etc all checked and fine so not sure whats next to try. Might go for a new donut bush on the diff , its possible the rear is a bit loose and that could be causing it.