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[Ian_D]

Didn’t even make it home! So had to join the AA and pull my pants down  

Did about 35 miles, everything was fine (ish).

Then the throttle pedal went dead. I looked at the dash to find the temp gauge in the red (Still ticking over though)  So VERY VERY quickly pulled over, switched off and opened the bonnet.  

There was water pissing out of the coolant bottle.

Cut a long story short, I'm about 90% certain that its the water pump which has failed. I started it back up after it had cooled down a bit, and it ran fine, however there was no heat coming from the heater in the cabin, and the radiator hoses weren't red hot to touch (yet gauge was half way).

Left it running about a minuet, and the gauge slowly started to creep up, so I switched it off, and called the AA  

The engine still starts up first time, and revs up ok etc. Should it be ok after getting that hot?  :-/

[HGV mechanic]

if its blowing back out the tank it sounds like head gasket

[Omegatoy]

water pump falling off is very common mate, but it depends how long you drove it whilst it was hot as to whether or not you done the hg, you obviously got it hot enough for the ecu to shut the engine down so it may be touch and go, best to change the water pump and try it on the road,
water pump is 45min job tops!!

[semisheen]

when the engine is "COLD" fill the resovoir tank up leave the top off start the engine if there are bubles comming from it ..its the head gasket if there are no bubles its the pump

Good luck  

[TheBoy]

These engines are safe to 110C - which is 100C on the gauge, and the gauge has a 12s delay.

If it hit the red, you are definately in the realms of possibility of head damage.  If the head is damaged, you're in trouble, as BMW state that you must not skim these.

I may have a crap pump here if you wanted to try one before buying a new one (to check no head damage). Postage only, or collect.

[Ian_D]

These engines are safe to 110C - which is 100C on the gauge, and the gauge has a 12s delay.

If it hit the red, you are definately in the realms of possibility of head damage.  If the head is damaged, you're in trouble, as BMW state that you must not skim these.

I may have a crap pump here if you wanted to try one before buying a new one (to check no head damage). Postage only, or collect.

Whats up with the 'crap' pump?   Maybe interested.

Just been out to start it again, and left it running for a minuet. There’s no bubbles coming out of the header tank, and its not using any water. Still runs sweet as a nut. If the hg has gone, its going to be scrapped.  :-/

[TheBoy]

These engines are safe to 110C - which is 100C on the gauge, and the gauge has a 12s delay.

If it hit the red, you are definately in the realms of possibility of head damage.  If the head is damaged, you're in trouble, as BMW state that you must not skim these.

I may have a crap pump here if you wanted to try one before buying a new one (to check no head damage). Postage only, or collect.

Whats up with the 'crap' pump?   Maybe interested.

Just been out to start it again, and left it running for a minuet. There’s no bubbles coming out of the header tank, and its not using any water. Still runs sweet as a nut. If the hg has gone, its going to be scrapped.  :-/

Its still in old block, no idea if its still OK, but was working fine when I did briefly have that engine running 18months ago

Pop your pump out, if its impellor-less, then it may be worthwhile trying mine (which I'll try to remove and look at tomorrow), and if that cures your problem, worth then paying £50 for a new one (TD pumps are quite expensive, genuine is over £100 iirc)

[Andy B]

A man of your calibre should be able to sort out a head gasket . You had no heat from the heater cos your water was on the road & not in the matrix  .

[TheBoy]

A man of your calibre should be able to sort out a head gasket . You had no heat from the heater cos your water was on the road & not in the matrix  .

Don't underestimate what a bastard these are.  The chain tensioners, like the crap senator ones, are a pain in the arse.  Also, the head, like said crappy senator one, will make your 'dangle berries' turn square when you lift it off.

[Andy B]

A man of your calibre should be able to sort out a head gasket . You had no heat from the heater cos your water was on the road & not in the matrix  .

Don't underestimate what a bastard these are.  The chain tensioners, like the crap senator ones, are a pain in the arse.  Also, the head, like said crappy senator one, will make your 'dangle berries' turn square when you lift it off.

Been there done that. Piece of pi$$. At least the 'cr4ppy' Senator, like the diseasal BMW lump has cams driven by a chain instead of a shitty rubber band!!!  

Don't forget that most of us can stand closer to the car than you ........  

[Ian_D]

A man of your calibre should be able to sort out a head gasket . You had no heat from the heater cos your water was on the road & not in the matrix  .

I only lost about a litre of water thinking about it....

Dont think I would fix it TBH, Like I said, if the HG has gone, then the car is off to heaven hell!

The car was 390 quid, and I had to join AA at the roadside! Not sure how much its cost to be towed home as they told me that many different things, I think its around £300-350 ish!!  

What a waste of frigging cash  

I wasn't a happy bunny, think there was more steam coming out of my ears than there was under the bonnet!

[Andy B]

A man of your calibre should be able to sort out a head gasket . You had no heat from the heater cos your water was on the road & not in the matrix  .

I only lost about a litre of water thinking about it....

Dont think I would fix it TBH, Like I said, if the HG has gone, then the car is off to heaven hell!

The car was 390 quid, and I had to join AA at the roadside! Not sure how much its cost to be towed home as they told me that many different things, I think its around £300-350 ish!!  

What a waste of frigging cash  

I wasn't a happy bunny, think there was more steam coming out of my ears than there was under the bonnet!

How much is a head gasket? If it's as much as a Senator's - £60 - fix it using the minimum of new bits and flog it as a runner. Surely better than 'giving' away a none runner.

[semisheen]

Its hard to say without being there but from whats been written i dont think the head gaskets gone .....the heater wouldnt be warm if the water pump gone .....its like having the fire on without the cental heating pump on

[webby23]

Join the AA's part and labour policy mate.

For less than £10 a month they pay for any genuine repairs up to £475 and you can claim up to 5 times each year.

Paid for the hg to get done in our previous Omega no problems at all.

Hope you get it sorted mate

 

[TheBoy]

A man of your calibre should be able to sort out a head gasket . You had no heat from the heater cos your water was on the road & not in the matrix  .

Don't underestimate what a bastard these are.  The chain tensioners, like the crap senator ones, are a pain in the arse.  Also, the head, like said crappy senator one, will make your 'dangle berries' turn square when you lift it off.

Been there done that. Piece of pi$$. At least the 'cr4ppy' Senator, like the diseasal BMW lump has cams driven by a chain instead of a shitty rubber band!!!  

Don't forget that most of us can stand closer to the car than you ........  

And said rubber band is so much better and cheaper to replace that gay chains that stretch all over the shop. Even when you take into account you have to change it 2.5 times more often.

BMW diesel has an added chain issue - to replace, head and sump has to come off