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[feeutfo]

has there been a change in policy with safety/inspection certificates and insurance companys in the last 10months? Just rang my insurance company, direct line, to inform them of my modification to lpg and they say once fitted, and if no certificate is issued on the vehicle then my insurance is void...!

Spent most of the day desperately phoneing round to sort a test, but the nearest app is tomorrow in Littlehampton! Almost a 2 hour drive. All other are cooked up for weeks except a couple of old boys in slough who are going to ring in the morning. They dont fill me with confidence tbh.

Oh and by the way, that will be £100 plus (YES "PLUS") VAT for the cert!  How can that be right?

How do you guys deal with this? I should have spoken to them nearer/before completion of the install quite clearly, not after its finished as i now have a full tank of gas and the use of the mrs polo!
Arse.

[Kevin Wood]

My insurer didn't ask and I didn't bring it up. :-/ Really should get it done though. That sounds rather steep.

Have you tried http://www.amsautogas.com/. Just up the road from me. Popped in with JamesV6CDX once for some bits and pieces and he was a helpful chap. Mentioned that he could do certs and IIRC the price was a good bit lower...

Have you spoken to Teilo? I know he was hoping to be able to certify soon but it's gone quiet recently.

Failing that, try another insurer?  :-/

Kevin

[doz]

You've always needed a cert so no nothing has changed in the last ten months  

[feeutfo]

yeah i realise always needed cert. but when i spoke to direct line they where very vague, and said to just inform then on completion. Now, having done so, i find myself uninsured.

I should change insurers anyway mine are crap. But Kev i think we have to declare any modifications on any new policy, they always seem to ask as part of the proposal? I realise any lpg system may not come to light in a small claim but if the car is examined and found not as declared or as their records it a perfect excuse not to pay out.

The guys in Alton are heavily booked, as are swindon, who claim to be unable to certify  any system they have not been trained on. They had never herd of the Stag 300 system.(is thats right model? guessed to be honest) there are a few qualified around me but all seen to be booked up and at least an hours drive.

Tailo agrees the price is pi55 take and blames the lpga for bumping it up. They hate diy installs he tells me, and have been lobbying insurers to tighten up on certs. I wonder why? They also charge testers 800pa for the right to certify. He says its 15 to 20 mins to check requirements but they book an hour appointment for the test. Compare to testing the whole car for an mot and its def ott.... imho anyway. One for watchdog perhaps?

[Lazydocker]

Teilo can do a safety certificate, which is all you'll get elsewhere and sufficient for insurance purposes. I know he's a bit of a trek but he might do it FOC as part of the kit cost... I don't know for certain he will but it's worth asking!

For future reference, Swiftcover don't charge any more for LPG converted cars and just stipulate it has to be professionally converted, i.e. Have a certificate of conformity, which Teilo can do! He's still waiting for the LPGA to pull their finger out with regards to full LPGA certification.

[Dazzler]

MoreThan also do not charge for LPG installs and if you do provide them with a cert then you get an extra 10% off your premium

Lazydocker do you have Teilo's number by chance please.

[Lazydocker]

MoreThan also do not charge for LPG installs and if you do provide them with a cert then you get an extra 10% off your premium

Lazydocker do you have Teilo's number by chance please.

Not on me but I'll PM you with it later.

[Dazzler]

MoreThan also do not charge for LPG installs and if you do provide them with a cert then you get an extra 10% off your premium

Lazydocker do you have Teilo's number by chance please.

Not on me but I'll PM you with it later.

[feeutfo]

 its very reassuring. What ever else happens you guys are always there, reliable, and helpfull.

Teilo can do a safety certificate, which is all you'll get elsewhere and sufficient for insurance purposes. I know he's a bit of a trek but he might do it FOC as part of the kit cost... I don't know for certain he will but it's worth asking!

For future reference, Swiftcover don't charge any more for LPG converted cars and just stipulate it has to be professionally converted, i.e. Have a certificate of conformity, which Teilo can do! He's still waiting for the LPGA to pull their finger out with regards to full LPGA certification.

Can you clarify Paul.
Safety certificate.
Certificate of conformity.
Full lpg certification.
How many are there and which one do i need? Cant get through to direct line"Due to adverse weather" says the recording..!!! Aye?

Also found a guy in uxbridge who can test at 10am for £80. He asked what sort of cert do i need. I said for insurance....so obviously more than one cert to be had?

Thanks for your support guys much appreciated. :-)

[Entwood]

Elephant did not want to see any certificate, they were happy with the fact the car is dual fuel registered with the DVLA, although they (DVLA) did want one.. and I believe always have .

[Lazydocker]

Chris, you will need to check with D/L but a Certificate of Conformity/Safety Certificate (same thing) should suffice. You shouldn't be able to get a Full LPGA Certificate from anyone at the moment as the kit is still being approved by the LPGA for Certification purposes. Once this process is completed Teilo will be the only person (to begin with) who can issue full LPGA Certificates.

Hope this helps you somewhat... Like I said, I'd check with Teilo before paying someone to inspect it as I was going to get mine checked and he told me not to as he could do it

[feeutfo]

Chris, you will need to check with D/L but a Certificate of Conformity/Safety Certificate (same thing) should suffice. You shouldn't be able to get a Full LPGA Certificate from anyone at the moment as the kit is still being approved by the LPGA for Certification purposes. Once this process is completed Teilo will be the only person (to begin with) who can issue full LPGA Certificates.

Hope this helps you somewhat... Like I said, I'd check with Teilo before paying someone to inspect it as I was going to get mine checked and he told me not to as he could do it

I have spoken with him on this, he cant do until late June/July. But he wast talking about full Lpga cert. He didnt mention safety cert. Didnt realise the difference at the time.

 So to be clear, are we saying it is not possible to acquire a full lpga cert for this system?

And if so, obviously only safety cert can be issued by anyone. So presumably should be cheaper?

[Lazydocker]

Chris, you will need to check with D/L but a Certificate of Conformity/Safety Certificate (same thing) should suffice. You shouldn't be able to get a Full LPGA Certificate from anyone at the moment as the kit is still being approved by the LPGA for Certification purposes. Once this process is completed Teilo will be the only person (to begin with) who can issue full LPGA Certificates.

Hope this helps you somewhat... Like I said, I'd check with Teilo before paying someone to inspect it as I was going to get mine checked and he told me not to as he could do it

I have spoken with him on this, he cant do until late June/July. But he wast talking about full Lpga cert. If didnt mention safety cert. Didnt realise the difference at the time.

 So to be clear, are we saying it is not possible to acquire a full lpga cert for this system?

And if so, obviously only safety cert can be issued by anyone. So presumably should be cheaper?

I can get a safety cert for £50+VAT here but it's a long way to come!!

Have a word with Teilo tomorrow and tell him the situation. He may say he can do a safety cert in the mean time before the full LPGA certs come through

[Cybertrucker]

Insurers seem to be getting generally arsey about LPG lately.  My Dad's been running camper vans for years (he's currently on his third) which, of course, have a little cooker running on Calor gas.  Last year his insurance company suddenly decided that the gas installation had to be certified by a CORGI registered installer, which caused him a major problem, because nearly all the gas fitters he tried said "Sorry mate, we don't do Calor gas stuff, only mains gas".  

[dippydave]

Insurers seem to be getting generally arsey about LPG lately.  My Dad's been running camper vans for years (he's currently on his third) which, of course, have a little cooker running on Calor gas.  Last year his insurance company suddenly decided that the gas installation had to be certified by a CORGI registered installer, which caused him a major problem, because nearly all the gas fitters he tried said "Sorry mate, we don't do Calor gas stuff, only mains gas".  

to make matters worse, Corgi aren't in charge of gas testing any more, you need someone on the 'GasSafe' register! Big yellow sticker not orange shield......