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[gstylebaby]

Hi fellas,
As some of you know i have been having some trouble i did a cam cover gasket change two weeks ago now and then did a paper clip test and got code 19 incorrect r.p.m signal have changed the crank sensor as recommended today and then re-did paper clip test and i'm still getting code 19  ....Were do i go from here fellas cause  i have had no car for two weeks now due to the fact i work shifts and getting parts etc...I did not change the inlet gaskets and did not change the plenum o'rings could this be my problem ? I want to hit it with a large hammer but that would only cost me more.
HHHelp please........

[TheBoy]

How long since you changed the sensor?

[gstylebaby]

done it today mate.

[gstylebaby]

Anyone ?

[Andy B]

Anyone ?

Sorry Lee      

[MutantCav]

ECU can retain error codes for 20 startups after its fixed...may be a not present code...if so it will go away soon

[Andy B]

ECU can retain error codes for 20 startups after its fixed...may be a not present code...if so it will go away soon

That's a point! :-? Did you clear the ECU after fitting your new crank sensor?  :-/   

[gstylebaby]

ECU can retain error codes for 20 startups after its fixed...may be a not present code...if so it will go away soon

That's a point! :-? Did you clear the ECU after fitting your new crank sensor?  :-/   

No mate how do i do that do you need tech one / two to do it.  The fault did go at one point but then the car would not start just kept popping and farting then stall. The code's i got at that point were 12 and 31 which is normal...Took the idel air control valve off gave it a clean put it back in and it started o.k but then the code 19 was back. I have got another code coming up which is 135 but put that down to the fact i have a lamp out on the display.

[Andy B]

ECU can retain error codes for 20 startups after its fixed...may be a not present code...if so it will go away soon

That's a point! :-? Did you clear the ECU after fitting your new crank sensor?  :-/   

No mate how do i do that do you need tech one / two to do it.  The fault did go at one point but then the car would not start just kept popping and farting then stall. The code's i got at that point were 12 and 31 which is normal...Took the idel air control valve off gave it a clean put it back in and it started o.k but then the code 19 was back. I have got another code coming up which is 135 but put that down to the fact i have a lamp out on the display.

As Mutantcav/Chris says, the fault code will be wiped from the ECU after about 20 'clean' starts or with a real or Cheapo Tech II.
Is you EMl still on or has it now gone out? If it's out, then the ECU is happy, but has remembered the previous faults.

[gstylebaby]

ECU can retain error codes for 20 startups after its fixed...may be a not present code...if so it will go away soon

That's a point! :-? Did you clear the ECU after fitting your new crank sensor?  :-/   

No mate how do i do that do you need tech one / two to do it.  The fault did go at one point but then the car would not start just kept popping and farting then stall. The code's i got at that point were 12 and 31 which is normal...Took the idel air control valve off gave it a clean put it back in and it started o.k but then the code 19 was back. I have got another code coming up which is 135 but put that down to the fact i have a lamp out on the display.

As Mutantcav/Chris says, the fault code will be wiped from the ECU after about 20 'clean' starts or with a real or Cheapo Tech II.
Is you EMl still on or has it now gone out? If it's out, then the ECU is happy, but has remembered the previous faults.

My e.m.l has not bean on at all until today when i left the bloody plug off the idel air control valve i'm only getting the 19 code from the paper clip test the e.m.l was never on mate ? Will have a go at the 20 starts tomorrow see what that does thanks for all the advice fellas...I just want to drive my omega again.

[Andy B]

ECU can retain error codes for 20 startups after its fixed...may be a not present code...if so it will go away soon

That's a point! :-? Did you clear the ECU after fitting your new crank sensor?  :-/   

No mate how do i do that do you need tech one / two to do it.  The fault did go at one point but then the car would not start just kept popping and farting then stall. The code's i got at that point were 12 and 31 which is normal...Took the idel air control valve off gave it a clean put it back in and it started o.k but then the code 19 was back. I have got another code coming up which is 135 but put that down to the fact i have a lamp out on the display.

As Mutantcav/Chris says, the fault code will be wiped from the ECU after about 20 'clean' starts or with a real or Cheapo Tech II.
Is you EMl still on or has it now gone out? If it's out, then the ECU is happy, but has remembered the previous faults.

My e.m.l has not bean on at all until today when i left the bloody plug off the idel air control valve i'm only getting the 19 code from the paper clip test the e.m.l was never on mate ? Will have a go at the 20 starts tomorrow see what that does thanks for all the advice fellas...I just want to drive my omega again.

You can always come & borrow my 'cheapo Tech II' if you think it'd help.  lappy with serial port required

[gstylebaby]

ECU can retain error codes for 20 startups after its fixed...may be a not present code...if so it will go away soon

That's a point! :-? Did you clear the ECU after fitting your new crank sensor?  :-/   

No mate how do i do that do you need tech one / two to do it.  The fault did go at one point but then the car would not start just kept popping and farting then stall. The code's i got at that point were 12 and 31 which is normal...Took the idel air control valve off gave it a clean put it back in and it started o.k but then the code 19 was back. I have got another code coming up which is 135 but put that down to the fact i have a lamp out on the display.

As Mutantcav/Chris says, the fault code will be wiped from the ECU after about 20 'clean' starts or with a real or Cheapo Tech II.
Is you EMl still on or has it now gone out? If it's out, then the ECU is happy, but has remembered the previous faults.

My e.m.l has not bean on at all until today when i left the bloody plug off the idel air control valve i'm only getting the 19 code from the paper clip test the e.m.l was never on mate ? Will have a go at the 20 starts tomorrow see what that does thanks for all the advice fellas...I just want to drive my omega again.

You can always come & borrow my 'cheapo Tech II' if you think it'd help.  lappy with serial port required

Thanks for the offer mate but dont have a lap top....Will try the key thing and i think a mate of mine has a tech device not sure but if he has i'l get him to have a look...Thanks again andy.

[mathewst]

I also had some problems so will have to check the crank sensor.
How dificult is it to change? Also what is the price of the new one?
Cannot do a paperclip test cause the car is 2.2 petrol

[gstylebaby]

I also had some problems so will have to check the crank sensor.
How dificult is it to change? Also what is the price of the new one?
Cannot do a paperclip test cause the car is 2.2 petrol

Not that hard mate 1 bolt that holds in it next to the oil filter and then plug at the top....Just remembered yours is a 2.2 but still don't think it would be that hard.

[gstylebaby]

Well cleared the e.c.u doing the key trick and now not only do i have my code 19 but i also have 57 idel air control voltage low  
Now i'm more lost than i was before.