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[mantahatch]

it is supposed to release once it detects the car in gear, clutch at biting point and revs above idle.......

However i have a duff car and the bloody brakes have locked on, there doesnt seem to a manual way of releasing them either.

So now we know what the default setting is, when these things go belly up you aint going no where.

AA were there for 45 mins and eventually had to drag the car back to Avis with the back wheels suspended, i have another one of these fine German automobiles being delivered this afternoon  

 

Just a thought, could this happen whilst driving along at approx 70mph ? is this going to turn into another german cover up of faults on there cars ?
For your information, the bmw mini had more safety recalls in the first 2 years than the Vauxhall Vectra B had in its entire production run.

Mike  

[Kevin Wood]

So now we know what the default setting is, when these things go belly up you aint going no where.

I have a feeling the VAG ones still have a pair of hand brake cables between the calipers and the electric actuator. So next time...  take a set of bolt cutters with you and if there's any trouble give it the snip!  

Kevin

[Paulus]

Jaguar have got it right...simply put your foot on the accelerator and it switches off automatically.

[Jay w]

it is supposed to release once it detects the car in gear, clutch at biting point and revs above idle.......

However i have a duff car and the bloody brakes have locked on, there doesnt seem to a manual way of releasing them either.

So now we know what the default setting is, when these things go belly up you aint going no where.

AA were there for 45 mins and eventually had to drag the car back to Avis with the back wheels suspended, i have another one of these fine German automobiles being delivered this afternoon  

 

Just a thought, could this happen whilst driving along at approx 70mph ? is this going to turn into another german cover up of faults on there cars ?
For your information, the bmw mini had more safety recalls in the first 2 years than the Vauxhall Vectra B had in its entire production run.

Mike  

i cant see why, unless the system was to short out whilst the car was in motion.

failure like this is more often when the item has been activated and the motor(s) become stuck in the close position.....

mind you something as simple as a fuse blowing would have the same effect.....scarey

[Jay w]

So now we know what the default setting is, when these things go belly up you aint going no where.

I have a feeling the VAG ones still have a pair of hand brake cables between the calipers and the electric actuator. So next time...  take a set of bolt cutters with you and if there's any trouble give it the snip!  

Kevin

dont know why but jimbob springs to mind at this point  

[Jimbob]

 

[Kevin Wood]

So now we know what the default setting is, when these things go belly up you aint going no where.

I have a feeling the VAG ones still have a pair of hand brake cables between the calipers and the electric actuator. So next time...  take a set of bolt cutters with you and if there's any trouble give it the snip!  

Kevin

dont know why but jimbob springs to mind at this point  

 

Is Jimbob's one manually operated or electric?  

Kevin

[Paul M]

Jaguar have got it right...simply put your foot on the accelerator and it switches off automatically.

Brilliant idea.... so you're stopped on a steep hill with the handbrake on. As would be sensible in this case, you decide to give it some revs before pulling away, otherwise the engine will stall due to it having to overcome the car's weight being pulled up a hill. At which point the handbrake immediately disengages leaving you rolling backwards down a rather steep hill.

Is this part of equal opportunities law, that dumbf**ks have to be given the same chance at design jobs as those who actually have a clue?

[TheBoy]

Jaguar have got it right...simply put your foot on the accelerator and it switches off automatically.

Brilliant idea.... so you're stopped on a steep hill with the handbrake on. As would be sensible in this case, you decide to give it some revs before pulling away, otherwise the engine will stall due to it having to overcome the car's weight being pulled up a hill. At which point the handbrake immediately disengages leaving you rolling backwards down a rather steep hill.

Is this part of equal opportunities law, that dumbf**ks have to be given the same chance at design jobs as those who actually have a clue?

Whilst I'm not a fan of it, it does actually work.  My complaint is what happens when something breaks...

[Paul M]

I wouldn't fancy trying to park in one of the marked bays in San Francisco with one of those things. Tight space combined with very steep hills mean you need all the control you can get to avoid bumping into one of the cars either in front or behind. A well-maintained, effective "analogue" handbrake is essential for this IMO.

Next we'll have an automatic footbrake that is either on or off

[Paul M]

Oh and on a similar note, I can only assume this "feature" came out of some research centre in the US... yet another appeasement to the nation where almost everyone over 16 has a driving licence, but very few can actually drive. I guess many of them found operating the handbrake properly a skill too far.

[TheBoy]

Next we'll have an automatic footbrake that is either on or off

I thought thats how footbrakes were  

[cem_devecioglu]

2 of my neighbours have new Passat TDIs..I've driven them..Never for my taste..

And I see them, everytime looking and examining my car  especially when I open the bonnet  

[Martin_1962]

Jaguar have got it right...simply put your foot on the accelerator and it switches off automatically.

Brilliant idea.... so you're stopped on a steep hill with the handbrake on. As would be sensible in this case, you decide to give it some revs before pulling away, otherwise the engine will stall due to it having to overcome the car's weight being pulled up a hill. At which point the handbrake immediately disengages leaving you rolling backwards down a rather steep hill.

Is this part of equal opportunities law, that dumbf**ks have to be given the same chance at design jobs as those who actually have a clue?

I can see no point - pulling away while towing would be difficult, regardless of transmission, imagine 1 in 4 with a heavy caravan behind, a bit of throttle, hand brake off slide backwards with auto, panic with throttle & clutch with manual.

[Kevin Wood]

I wouldn't fancy trying to park in one of the marked bays in San Francisco

I once found myself in the same situation. Well, trying to pull away from a set of lights on one of the hills in some god-awful Buick with a push-button release pedal hand brake.

I think the natives have adopted the style of left foot braking but that's a dangerous habit if you ever drive something with the full driver involvement pack.

Kevin