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« on: 21 October 2009, 19:27:16 »

Hi everyone, had a accident in my 3.2 MV6 at the weekend. Not very happy but hay i am still alive so nothing to complain about. The car just span out of control and i am convinced that the Tyres are the problem. So i am not going to mess about!!! i want to order 4 good tyres for the car. it is 2001 and i was just wondering if anyone out there could help me with the make i should go with. Money is always hard to come by but am willing to invest to be safe. tyres are 235/45 17 :)
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« Reply #1 on: 21 October 2009, 19:34:37 »

You could pop in some Bridgestone Potenza tyres on. They are very nice tyres. got them all round the mig and cant complain  :y
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« Reply #2 on: 21 October 2009, 19:42:12 »

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You could pop in some Bridgestone Potenza tyres on. They are very nice tyres. got them all round the mig and cant complain  :y

yep..very good tires.. :y (I'm also using them- Adrenaline sub model more suitable for wet and street usage)

checking this charts can also give some idea..

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« Reply #3 on: 21 October 2009, 19:52:15 »

Anybody ever had pirreli p-zero assimetrico`s fitted on there miggy`s ???????? had them on my ovlov 850r and could not fault them at all good grip and wear rate imho would deffo consider having them again on the future as and when i need em
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« Reply #4 on: 21 October 2009, 20:35:58 »

Check wishbones as well
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« Reply #5 on: 21 October 2009, 20:45:45 »

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Hi everyone, had a accident in my 3.2 MV6 at the weekend. Not very happy but hay i am still alive so nothing to complain about. The car just span out of control and i am convinced that the Tyres are the problem. So i am not going to mess about!!! i want to order 4 good tyres for the car. it is 2001 and i was just wondering if anyone out there could help me with the make i should go with. Money is always hard to come by but am willing to invest to be safe. tyres are 235/45 17 :)

Car won't 'just' spin out, all tyres have a limit you should know what they are. As one forum member will comment, my last tyres were very, very hard, with plastic like quality  ;D

But they still were fine for standard use, i could still sling it around round-abouts at 50-60 mph, i knew what they could do and how far i could push it.

So i find it very difficult to believe it 'just' span out... you where either driving too fast for the conditions, or too aggressive with your steering.
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« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2009, 21:20:42 »

Hi, not really wanting to convince anyone that i can drive or anything but you are quick of the mark to allow your mind to run and assume i am not a competent driver. I was told the omega being a rear wheel drive system can be dangerous on wet corners!! Anyway i am sticking with the bad tyres idea But i would be careful doing 50-60 around round-abouts cos you may think you know what you are doing but i am sure you are doing some aggressive steering yourself and driving to fast for the conditions!!!! :y
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« Reply #7 on: 21 October 2009, 21:26:26 »

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Hi, not really wanting to convince anyone that i can drive or anything but you are quick of the mark to allow your mind to run and assume i am not a competent driver. I was told the omega being a rear wheel drive system can be dangerous on wet corners!! Anyway i am sticking with the bad tyres idea But i would be careful doing 50-60 around round-abouts cos you may think you know what you are doing but i am sure you are doing some aggressive steering yourself and driving to fast for the conditions!!!! :y

You were told wrong.

Senators were lethal in the wet, but the Omega is much more balanced. How am i quick off the mark, i am using your own words. 'It just span out'

Something i would expect from someone driving a Saxo, but the Omega is easy to predict.

1) Slow down
2) Make sure all the rear suspension components - coil springs / shocks ect are all in order.

I have had a number of Omegas mostly project fixers, and even spanking it around in a 3.0 Estate in the wet with cheap Kumo tyres, have never had it spin!
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« Reply #8 on: 21 October 2009, 21:50:32 »

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Hi, not really wanting to convince anyone that i can drive or anything but you are quick of the mark to allow your mind to run and assume i am not a competent driver. I was told the omega being a rear wheel drive system can be dangerous on wet corners!! Anyway i am sticking with the bad tyres idea But i would be careful doing 50-60 around round-abouts cos you may think you know what you are doing but i am sure you are doing some aggressive steering yourself and driving to fast for the conditions!!!! :y

You were told wrong.

Senators were lethal in the wet, but the Omega is much more balanced. How am i quick off the mark, i am using your own words. 'It just span out'

Something i would expect from someone driving a Saxo, but the Omega is easy to predict.

1) Slow down
2) Make sure all the rear suspension components - coil springs / shocks ect are all in order.

I have had a number of Omegas mostly project fixers, and even spanking it around in a 3.0 Estate in the wet with cheap Kumo tyres, have never had it spin!
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thats good to hear lol, use to like having my old carton gsi having its back hanging out
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« Reply #9 on: 21 October 2009, 21:52:34 »

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Hi, not really wanting to convince anyone that i can drive or anything but you are quick of the mark to allow your mind to run and assume i am not a competent driver. I was told the omega being a rear wheel drive system can be dangerous on wet corners!! Anyway i am sticking with the bad tyres idea But i would be careful doing 50-60 around round-abouts cos you may think you know what you are doing but i am sure you are doing some aggressive steering yourself and driving to fast for the conditions!!!! :y

You were told wrong.

Senators were lethal in the wet, but the Omega is much more balanced. How am i quick off the mark, i am using your own words. 'It just span out'

Something i would expect from someone driving a Saxo, but the Omega is easy to predict.

1) Slow down
2) Make sure all the rear suspension components - coil springs / shocks ect are all in order.

I have had a number of Omegas mostly project fixers, and even spanking it around in a 3.0 Estate in the wet with cheap Kumo tyres, have never had it spin!
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thats good to hear lol, use to like having my old carton gsi having its back hanging out

Oh back hanging out is quite normal, my 2.2 when it was on its plastic tyres was always fun in the corners.

Only time i spun a car, was a Senator in the wet.
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« Reply #10 on: 21 October 2009, 22:06:01 »

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Hi, not really wanting to convince anyone that i can drive or anything but you are quick of the mark to allow your mind to run and assume i am not a competent driver. I was told the omega being a rear wheel drive system can be dangerous on wet corners!! Anyway i am sticking with the bad tyres idea But i would be careful doing 50-60 around round-abouts cos you may think you know what you are doing but i am sure you are doing some aggressive steering yourself and driving to fast for the conditions!!!! :y

You were told wrong.

Senators were lethal in the wet, but the Omega is much more balanced. How am i quick off the mark, i am using your own words. 'It just span out'

Something i would expect from someone driving a Saxo, but the Omega is easy to predict.

1) Slow down
2) Make sure all the rear suspension components - coil springs / shocks ect are all in order.

I have had a number of Omegas mostly project fixers, and even spanking it around in a 3.0 Estate in the wet with cheap Kumo tyres, have never had it spin!
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thats good to hear lol, use to like having my old carton gsi having its back hanging out

Oh back hanging out is quite normal, my 2.2 when it was on its plastic tyres was always fun in the corners.

Only time i spun a car, was a Senator in the wet.

lol spun the carlton once and once only but was down to me being slightly stupid i.e first day of having car and not use to it plus trying to light a ciggie when playing on a old airfield
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« Reply #11 on: 21 October 2009, 22:19:47 »

lol i turned me tc off on purpose and pulled onto a wet roundabout purposely stamped down and ended up pointing the wrong way facing a bus! lol, but im new to miggers and i agree that you can feel it start to go as it does feel really balanced :y
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« Reply #12 on: 21 October 2009, 22:26:33 »

RWD isn't dangerous, just acts differently to FWD when the driven wheels lose traction.

Not making any comment on your driving and/or experience with RWD - just fair to say that many people now only have experience with FWD, hence the 'RWD is dangerous' comments people state.

You are correct, poor tyres won't help - but if you have come from FWD cars, you'll still have some new skills to find :y

As said, not meant as any comment about your driving experience - for all I know, you could be the worlds best driver :y  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 21 October 2009, 22:38:43 »

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RWD isn't dangerous, just acts differently to FWD when the driven wheels lose traction.

Not making any comment on your driving and/or experience with RWD - just fair to say that many people now only have experience with FWD, hence the 'RWD is dangerous' comments people state.

You are correct, poor tyres won't help - but if you have come from FWD cars, you'll still have some new skills to find :y

As said, not meant as any comment about your driving experience - for all I know, you could be the worlds best driver :y  ;D


Not at all the world best driver but yes have came from FWD car, Then a BMW that was RWD and now the MV6 but yeah new skills needed ASAP lol!!! the new skills being body work!!! :D
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« Reply #14 on: 21 October 2009, 22:45:42 »

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RWD isn't dangerous, just acts differently to FWD when the driven wheels lose traction.

Not making any comment on your driving and/or experience with RWD - just fair to say that many people now only have experience with FWD, hence the 'RWD is dangerous' comments people state.

You are correct, poor tyres won't help - but if you have come from FWD cars, you'll still have some new skills to find :y

As said, not meant as any comment about your driving experience - for all I know, you could be the worlds best driver :y  ;D


Not at all the world best driver but yes have came from FWD car, Then a BMW that was RWD and now the MV6 but yeah new skills needed ASAP lol!!! the new skills being body work!!! :D
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;D ;D

Metal can be whacked back with a hammer.  Skin and bones can't :y.


Back to your issue, my old tractor used to sometimes 'snap out' a bit quicker than expected in very heavy rain if I was accelerating.  The tyres were great in dry and rain, just not brilliant in very heavy rain. And the power delivery was a bit harsh due to the chip, so I can relate to how quickly an Omega can step out.  That said, its probably then best RWD for feedback I've driven.

Does sound like tyres are your issue, but worth checking for any wear in rear suspension, or borken rear springs (common Omega fault) which could add an element of unpredictability
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