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Steering Idler
« on: 05 February 2010, 20:53:47 »

I have had my droplinks & wishbones replaced with gm parts & 4 wheel alignment done but my mig still wanders but only every now & then.
If I change lane on a dual carrigeway to overtake, the car kind of goes too fast to the right and you find yourself correcting the oversteer quickly but gives you that scared kinda feelin :P
It is still not right, could it be the steering idler????????
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #1 on: 05 February 2010, 21:38:42 »

does it do it to the left too? Known as 'tramlining' certain tyres cause this problem as well. Steering idler tends to have other symptoms as well, like wheel wobble braking from 60-50.

Its worth checking for play in it though  :y
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #2 on: 05 February 2010, 21:58:08 »

I will check the braking tom. It is not the tyres. Cant remember if it does it to the left.
I bought a new vectra in 2006 it was a sri xp & had huge astra vxr snowflake wheels on it which came with the xp pack. when I drove it down bumpy country roads it went all over the place like 3 feet to on side, nightmare was told that is tramlining due to tyre width? think the mig does that to a lesser degree, so might be the steering idler :question
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #3 on: 05 February 2010, 22:02:13 »

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I will check the braking tom. It is not the tyres. Cant remember if it does it to the left.
I bought a new vectra in 2006 it was a sri xp & had huge astra vxr snowflake wheels on it which came with the xp pack. when I drove it down bumpy country roads it went all over the place like 3 feet to on side, nightmare was told that is tramlining due to tyre width? think the mig does that to a lesser degree, so might be the steering idler :question

I find i 'bounce' around in the truck groves on the inside lane sometimes, and some dual carriage ways. Which does force the steering to one side, its a good excuse to stay in the outside lane  ;D

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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #4 on: 06 February 2010, 00:34:25 »

Ive changed wishbones, drop links, Inner and outer track rod ends, idler arm and still get tramlining. Had tracking done but not camber.May be that some thing to do with it as im fed up spending money and still have problem.
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #5 on: 06 February 2010, 08:51:29 »

if you have had wishbones done camber will need doing
put car on level ground use a spirit level measure rim at top and at bottom in the vertical plane for a rough guide should have approx 8mm difference ie top of wheel should be leaning inwards if outside this get the camber checked at a garage
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #6 on: 06 February 2010, 10:30:28 »

They could not do the camber. The car pulls to the left too much, my dads identical car does it aswell. :(
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #7 on: 06 February 2010, 11:01:16 »

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They could not do the camber. The car pulls to the left too much, my dads identical car does it aswell. :(

Worth a trip to Wheels in Motion (WIM) in Chesham, its a bit of a drive, but i can't recommend them enough. Totally transformed all of our Omegas, corners like they are on rails.

They really know there stuff when it comes to full geometry (not just tracking) so many OOF users go down there, we have bespoke settings outside the manufactures specs, so much better for it too.

Mention OOF and you get a good discount  :y
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #8 on: 06 February 2010, 12:02:02 »

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They could not do the camber. The car pulls to the left too much, my dads identical car does it aswell. :(

Worth a trip to Wheels in Motion (WIM) in Chesham, its a bit of a drive, but i can't recommend them enough. Totally transformed all of our Omegas, corners like they are on rails.

They really know there stuff when it comes to full geometry (not just tracking) so many OOF users go down there, we have bespoke settings outside the manufactures specs, so much better for it too.

Mention OOF and you get a good discount  :y
Be aware that WIM are opening up over 100 franchises, all with access to WIM's technical data.

That said, I would always take mine down to the 'main man' :y
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #9 on: 06 February 2010, 14:46:23 »

A member e-mailed me the wim settings. The bloke that done mine has had 4 migs & ses they are a pig to set up but reckons he knows how to do them??????????
Should of gone to wim in the place but did not know about it then. :(
Spent £89 on tracking when i first got the car, then had full service, cam belt & tensioners, waterpump, front discs & pads, droplinks & wishbones, tracking again, cam sensor, maf sensor, battery,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the car only cost £1500
well run out of money now, must of spent a grand.
should get some trouble free motoring for a while now.  :y
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #10 on: 06 February 2010, 17:23:18 »

Forgot to say that there is a big clonking noise coming from passenger side front when I go over speed bumps, does steering idler make a clonking noise??????
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #11 on: 06 February 2010, 20:28:06 »

Bought a new gm idler will soon find out if it is the culprit!!! :)
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #12 on: 06 February 2010, 23:26:24 »

More than likely droplinks.
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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #13 on: 07 February 2010, 11:39:08 »

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Steering idler tends to have other symptoms as well, like wheel wobble braking from 60-50.

Sounds like I'll be doing one of these soon then  :(

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Re: Steering Idler
« Reply #14 on: 07 February 2010, 11:42:25 »

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Steering idler tends to have other symptoms as well, like wheel wobble braking from 60-50.

Sounds like I'll be doing one of these soon then  :(

Humpy

Warped discs can cause it too, although it totally cleared for me when i had a new (pattern) idler fitted, its started to come back now though  >:(
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