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Not starting first time in the morning
« on: 15 October 2010, 08:36:46 »
Hi Guys,
Strange one my miggy for the pat 3 mornings hasnt started first time first turn of the key and she just turns over and seems to have no intention of starting same second turn of the key???
Third turn she fires straight away and is then fine all day. Only seems to happen after standing overnight??
Any help/ideas greatly appreciated.
Regards Jay
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #1 on: 15 October 2010, 08:50:10 »
Do a paperclip test (see the link in my signature) and let us know if there are any codes stored.
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #2 on: 15 October 2010, 08:53:43 »
I'm watching with interest......
Mine is doing this, not every morning though. Once it starts it runs perfectly. There are no faults showing though, Lee put it on his laptop.
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #3 on: 15 October 2010, 09:10:48 »
Ok guys will do a paperclip test and get back asap.
Jay
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #4 on: 15 October 2010, 09:33:04 »
Hi Guys.
Done the paperclip test it flashed a 12 and a 31 i didnt have the engine running so no fault codes??
Could it be a crank sensor on its way out??
Also i serviced the car about 3 weeks ago well oiul and oil filter.
Could that have anything to do with it??
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #5 on: 15 October 2010, 10:55:04 »
Mine used to do this,  it was an early warning that the crank sensor is on its way out. you may eventually get code 19 but at that point you are likley stranded on the moors alone in the dark ;D

If you don't have a spare I would get it changed, £50 ish from Vaux with a trade card if you have one and an easy job to do.
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #6 on: 15 October 2010, 11:20:43 »
Stongly suspect crank sensor on it's way out - same symptoms I had on my last Omega. It will probably fail to start completely at some point although you can still bump start.
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #7 on: 15 October 2010, 15:45:05 »
Given the temperature has plummetted over last 3 or 4 days, worth getting live data from CTS as well
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #8 on: 16 October 2010, 06:55:35 »
hi guys
my car has started doing the same, its happened all of a sudden
difficult to start first time but once started it will start again without problems
its not showing any codes
just wondering if you guys got your problems sorted by changing  the crank sensor
if so where is it loctaed and is it hard to change on a 3.2
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #9 on: 16 October 2010, 12:58:55 »
If you also have problems driving  on low fuel. I suggest also to check fuel pressure, had the same problem at starting. solved by changing fuel pump
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #10 on: 18 October 2010, 02:08:32 »
hi guys
ok started to get a random misfire while driving it yestareday on cylinder 246
so i thiought it might be the coil pack
i changed it with a known working one but still no luck
am i coreect in saying it might be the knock sensor
if so where is it loacted any pics would be appreciated
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #11 on: 18 October 2010, 16:13:23 »
anybody
with any info please
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #12 on: 18 October 2010, 16:35:04 »
did you check the plugs for any oil / water?

Also what happens if you unplug the MAF sensor?
« Last Edit: 18 October 2010, 16:35:14 by tunnie »
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #13 on: 18 October 2010, 17:32:09 »
100% Crank sensor. (ok 99% but thats where the smart money is)  not expensive and easy to change without even removing the wheels. EXACT same on mine, fixed.
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Re: Not starting first time in the morning
« Reply #14 on: 18 October 2010, 21:34:36 »
Quote
did you check the plugs for any oil / water?

Also what happens if you unplug the MAF sensor?
no oil or water around the plugs
removing the maf  makes it worse
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