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[feeutfo]

... torque or talk? 

[Kevin Wood]

A Rover V8 needs quite a lot spending on it to get to 300 BHP. In fact, any one you pick up second hand will need a fair bit spending on it to get it back to a  reasonable level of wear before you start tuning. More support for tuning it than the GM V6, but you're starting out with an inferior engine.

A chevy V8 engine on a crate from the US will drop straight in and give a reliable 350BHP all day.

Kevin

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Just a thought about the original issues with saab being front driven, and therefore unsuitable....

V6 Calibras/Cavaliers, both front wheel drive, use a version of the Omega V6 (or should that be Omegas use a rwd version of the Cav's fwd V6?!!?)

At some point the engines are identical, surely. Why cant you take off the 'bit', presumably at bottom end, that's fwd from the saabs V6, and stick on the 'bits' from a rwd omega V6? I know Im being a bit over-simplistic, but nonetheless, they are, as far as i'm aware basically the same engine.


I'm sure I have seen, possibly at Billing, a fwd v6 in something like a Commodore/rekord, maybe even a kadett. The point being, they had altered it to drive the rear wheels. It must be possible, or am I just an optimist with a bad memory?    8-)

[GmasterT]

sodium valves and holes/oil feeds in the rods by the shells (although I now think the mega has sodiums)

I got some saab rods when I was going to rebuild my old 3.0 elite.

Cheaper an equally powerful/torquey option would be the 2.3 saab 4pot. Would work on the standard box too

I have looked into all sorts of conversion options on omegas, saabs and nissans combined, including tuning

[feeutfo]

Just a thought about the original issues with saab being front driven, and therefore unsuitable....

V6 Calibras/Cavaliers, both front wheel drive, use a version of the Omega V6 (or should that be Omegas use a rwd version of the Cav's fwd V6?!!?)

At some point the engines are identical, surely. Why cant you take off the 'bit', presumably at bottom end, that's fwd from the saabs V6, and stick on the 'bits' from a rwd omega V6? I know Im being a bit over-simplistic, but nonetheless, they are, as far as i'm aware basically the same engine.


I'm sure I have seen, possibly at Billing, a fwd v6 in something like a Commodore/rekord, maybe even a kadett. The point being, they had altered it to drive the rear wheels. It must be possible, or am I just an optimist with a bad memory?    8-)

Anything is possible given enough time/cash, plus there is the bangs for buck/effort consideration. Th ls1 makes the most sense, it's narrow, push rod heads although a bit old school are very compact, bulit prrof reliable and with negligible serving needed. No rather about with turbo's to get decent bhp and fit almost anything rwd with loads of tuning and knowledge available.

How much bhp from the Saab turbo engine?

[05omegav6]

How much bhp from the Saab turbo engine?

About 250 from the 2.8v6, not sure how closely related it is to the 3.0/3.2 v6 though.  :-/

Just a thought about the original issues with saab being front driven, and therefore unsuitable....

V6 Calibras/Cavaliers, both front wheel drive, use a version of the Omega V6 (or should that be Omegas use a rwd version of the Cav's fwd V6?!!?)

At some point the engines are identical, surely. Why cant you take off the 'bit', presumably at bottom end, that's fwd from the saabs V6, and stick on the 'bits' from a rwd omega V6? I know Im being a bit over-simplistic, but nonetheless, they are, as far as i'm aware basically the same engine.

Having said that, if the newer saab boxes are similarly bolted to the engine as the earlier ones then why couldn't an omega box fit the 2.8 as well?  :-/

Ls1 is probably most satisfying solution to more grunt. 8-)

[Jack blair]

   
i am looking for flat LCD connector for saab 9-5 ACC display

[hoody]

Better using the saab 4 pot 2.3 from a 9000 with a tdo4 turbo,225bhp standard and tunable to around 300bhp with a decent flowing exhaust and remap,mates up to the omega 3.0 manual box too.

[V6 CDX-er]

Fair enough then, has anyone fitted a Rover v8 before, as I work with them anyway.

To be blunt, I'd fail to see the point.

Surely getting 250bhp out of the V6 Vauxhall lump would be a lot cheaper than sticking a RV8 in it and trying to get more than 250bhp out of that?

Wouldn't the best option be sticking in one of the supercharged 3.8 V6's out of the Commodore VT or Buick Regal, (both of which are based very heavily on the Omega B anyway)?

[feeutfo]

Fair enough then, has anyone fitted a Rover v8 before, as I work with them anyway.

To be blunt, I'd fail to see the point.

Surely getting 250bhp out of the V6 Vauxhall lump would be a lot cheaper than sticking a RV8 in it and trying to get more than 250bhp out of that?

Wouldn't the best option be sticking in one of the supercharged 3.8 V6's out of the Commodore VT or Buick Regal, (both of which are based very heavily on the Omega B anyway)?

...yep, and take the process further. We're knocking on the door of an ls1,2 or 3 etc.

I suppose it's all in the eye of the beholder to an extent, but to me, more power to less maintenance has got to be the way to go IMO.

How long will turbo/4pot last...? And the omega v6 bottom end won't take much more than stock bhp without exploding. In fact it's the reason some v8 omegas where built. Which is a shame as bolting on a super charger to the v6 lump would be easier I'm sure.

[paulgsi]

wat is the differnce of the saab v6 turbo to the omega ? , are they not the same family of engine surely there cant be more work in getting it into an omega than a rover v8 and its gearbox ?? and the price of an ls1 and box , changing the steering box to rack etc i think it would be cool to have a saab v6 turbo engine in it , different from the norm anyway , and doesent seem to be totally different engine from the original v6 im surprised no one else has done it sooner

[feeutfo]

ok, think it through, where are the turbo(s) and exhuast routing going to go?

Dont get me wrong, if it works on the v6, it might work on the v8 too.   ;D  ;D

[paulgsi]

the size of the exhaust and turbo are the only things that are stopping such a conversion ? anyone know what the compression ratio is of these saab turbos ? , and what power they give , i still think its easier buy a monaro than getting a v8 and running gear and putting it in an omega cant be that hard to get a saab engine on the cheap and making it fit

[Ian_D]

18 months ago, I came across a bloke who was fitting a turbo'ed rover v8 in an Omega. It was up and running when I saw it (infact, it was the v8 noise that made me wander into the unit next door to see what it was - i had no idea it was an omega!)

Sadly, I've never been back down to ask the bloke what the outcome was. (must check and see if hes still even there!)

He was rebuilding the Omega for the drag strip and had stripped everything off it.

I told him about OOF, and he said 'nah its not going on the internet, I don't even know how to use a computer!' 

On my way out I spotted 'something' else sat on the floor looking like it should be under the bonnet of my car... which made me promptly turn round and ask him about it...

his answer was something like 'No, sorry, the LS1 is going in the next Omega I build so not for sale!'   

[V6 CDX-er]

the size of the exhaust and turbo are the only things that are stopping such a conversion ? anyone know what the compression ratio is of these saab turbos ? , and what power they give , i still think its easier buy a monaro than getting a v8 and running gear and putting it in an omega cant be that hard to get a saab engine on the cheap and making it fit

Or a Commodore even? Cheaper and more about. Plus similar to the Omega, (or same if you pick the 2000-2003 model).