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Ian Rycroft

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hard starting from cold
« on: 04 January 2011, 17:44:38 »

Hello,i have a year 2000 omega estate 2.2DTI with the ecotec engine,my proplem is the heater glow plug light only comes on for about 3 seconds and the car is hard to start on cold days,is there a timed relay that could be faulty,if so where is it located on the car,or is it in need of new glow plugs,thanks,ian
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #1 on: 04 January 2011, 18:17:43 »

Hi Ian and welcome to the forum. Ideally you need to get your car on a proper code reader to pinpoint the fault in the glow system. Where abouts are you located?
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #2 on: 04 January 2011, 20:10:42 »

does your temperature sensor work?? the time of the glow is set according to outside temperature, so if it thinks its not cold...
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #3 on: 04 January 2011, 20:31:14 »

Thanks for the answers,i am located in the isle of man,and yes my outside temp has stoped working,i only get F  C on my dash.
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #4 on: 06 January 2011, 10:25:17 »

Ian
Send me your e mail via a pm and I will send you  my full experiences of sorting a 2.2 dti cold starting problem. 3-4 pages of A4 so to big to post here.
It is probably the glow plug control module, from what you have said.  Ambient temperature  does set the glow time, but the glow plug control module has no direct connection to a temperature sensor. It gets this info from the ECU. From my experience, unfortunatly problems with the module do not report as stored fault codes.
Regarding your F & C readings. This is often associated with the ingress of moisture into the temp sensor wiring at  1) the sensor connector under the front bumper, 2) the sensor wiring  connectors by the horns 3) the large connector in passenger foot well. Quite often it will dry out and fix itself, but only to return when the weather gets really wet again!
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2011, 17:59:53 »

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Ian
Send me your e mail via a pm and I will send you  my full experiences of sorting a 2.2 dti cold starting problem. 3-4 pages of A4 so to big to post here.
It is probably the glow plug control module, from what you have said.  Ambient temperature  does set the glow time, but the glow plug control module has no direct connection to a temperature sensor. It gets this info from the ECU. From my experience, unfortunatly problems with the module do not report as stored fault codes.
Regarding your F & C readings. This is often associated with the ingress of moisture into the temp sensor wiring at  1) the sensor connector under the front bumper, 2) the sensor wiring  connectors by the horns 3) the large connector in passenger foot well. Quite often it will dry out and fix itself, but only to return when the weather gets really wet again!
Thanks fergy i have sent you a pm
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #6 on: 12 January 2011, 09:06:46 »

Ian
 I have e mailed you as promised
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #7 on: 12 January 2011, 09:09:55 »

forward it to me too  boditza12345
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #8 on: 12 January 2011, 09:11:11 »

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Ian
Send me your e mail via a pm and I will send you  my full experiences of sorting a 2.2 dti cold starting problem. 3-4 pages of A4 so to big to post here.
It is probably the glow plug control module, from what you have said.  Ambient temperature  does set the glow time, but the glow plug control module has no direct connection to a temperature sensor. It gets this info from the ECU. From my experience, unfortunatly problems with the module do not report as stored fault codes.
Regarding your F & C readings. This is often associated with the ingress of moisture into the temp sensor wiring at  1) the sensor connector under the front bumper, 2) the sensor wiring  connectors by the horns 3) the large connector in passenger foot well. Quite often it will dry out and fix itself, but only to return when the weather gets really wet again!


It sounds as though you could post a good 'How to'. :y
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #9 on: 12 January 2011, 09:30:17 »

That was my intention. All I have left to do is to take a few photos to fit in the spaces I have left in the text. No problems here, but when I read the ' how to post picture guide"  I had to  rest  in a darkened room for 20 minutes! Frankly I'm scared, well apprehensive at least, and this is stopping me progressing.

 Any helpful suggestions?
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Re: hard starting from cold
« Reply #10 on: 12 January 2011, 09:34:34 »

If you cant get photos on for a guide, publish the guide in the test zone, with markers where you want the pics, and email me the pics and ill do the rest  :y  (email address in my profile)

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« Reply #11 on: 12 January 2011, 13:32:31 »

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That was my intention. All I have left to do is to take a few photos to fit in the spaces I have left in the text. No problems here, but when I read the ' how to post picture guide"  I had to  rest  in a darkened room for 20 minutes! Frankly I'm scared, well apprehensive at least, and this is stopping me progressing.

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Funny you should say that, it's the same reason I've never posted pics. :y
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« Reply #12 on: 12 January 2011, 13:46:51 »

it would make the forum load pretty slow.. imageshack.us is a good uploading site, or send them to jimbob for posting on the maintainance guide :)
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