Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0  (Read 2247 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

rickmv6

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • moreton  wirral
  • Posts: 55
    • View Profile
2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« on: 29 January 2011, 21:07:24 »

hi i have had a problem with the cylinder heads on my mv6 3.0 the engine place  has said my heads are beyond repair so they have gave me a recon set where  i will use my existing cams.  problem is just noticed the heads have 2.5  etched into the side of each head.  does anybody know if these will still work.
« Last Edit: 29 January 2011, 21:22:12 by rickmv6 »
Logged

rickmv6

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • moreton  wirral
  • Posts: 55
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #1 on: 29 January 2011, 21:54:48 »

according to haynes manual valves are same size for both engines its the cams which have a different height. but i will be using the 3 litre cams any way.  just not sure if i will loose power.
Logged

geoffr70

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Sunderland
  • Posts: 2665
  • Boobies
    • F/L 3.0 Elite, 3.0 MV6
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #2 on: 29 January 2011, 21:58:07 »

A popular mod seems to be to replace 2.5 cams with 3.0 litre cams for a power increase. So it would obviously be a de-mod to go from 3.0 cams to 2.5 cams. But as you're keeping you 3.0 cams that won't be a problem.

What did the garage say is wrong with your heads? What is wrong with the heads?
Logged
TC and BnQ Trade holder.
I'll out pull you with my caravan!
V6 locking kit available locally, with deposit.

aaronjb

  • Guest
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #3 on: 29 January 2011, 22:01:25 »

I thought the 2.5 & 3.0 had different sized pistons and, thus, different size squish areas in the heads? (Which I'd think would create potential problems)
Logged

rickmv6

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • moreton  wirral
  • Posts: 55
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #4 on: 29 January 2011, 22:03:45 »

the heads where down on compression so took heads off. the outer half ring where water curculates was all blocked up when i cleaned them there was a big chunk of alloy that broke away. he said 2 much alloy would need to be welded in and he couldnt guarantee the work. so he got me these ones saying they where for the 3.0 litre
Logged

feeutfo

  • Guest
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #5 on: 30 January 2011, 06:07:28 »

There was a member at Newent with 2.5 heads on a 3.0, so it will physically fit. Can't tell you the power output but I would not do it myself. It was frowned upon by those present as I recall. Probably due to reasons given above.

Logged

albitz

  • Guest
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #6 on: 30 January 2011, 08:00:44 »

If he told you they were 3.0 heads and you have discovered for yourself that they are 2.5 heads, I would take that as a sign that he is incompetent/ dishonest, or both, and would take the car somewhere else. ;)
« Last Edit: 30 January 2011, 08:04:08 by albitz »
Logged

fiend61

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • york
  • Posts: 1544
  • each to their own
    • 2.5cdx 3.0mv6 3.2vec c
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #7 on: 30 January 2011, 08:19:15 »

Quote
If he told you they were 3.0 heads and you have discovered for yourself that they are 2.5 heads, I would take that as a sign that he is incompetent/ dishonest, or both, and would take the car somewhere else. 
i wouldnt go elsewhere, i would be straight back to the garage to demand that he puts 3.0l heads on  >:(
Logged

rickmv6

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • moreton  wirral
  • Posts: 55
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #8 on: 30 January 2011, 09:54:16 »

heads are not on engine yet they are still sitting in the kitchen  didnt want to fit them and find out it goes bang
.
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107023
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #9 on: 30 January 2011, 10:19:26 »

I'd stick to 3.0l heads.  Given the hassle and expense of fitting them, may as well put the proper ones on.

The 3.0l also has sodium filled valves (exhaust only?)
Logged
Grumpy old man

MutantCav

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Gainsborough
  • Posts: 2716
  • Smoke me a kipper - I'll be back for Breakfast
    • View Profile
    • Free Giffgaff Sim With £5 Free Credit
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #10 on: 30 January 2011, 11:03:51 »

Well I have a pair of 3 ltr heads here mate, still on the car which runs perfectly...I would take the 2.5 heads back to the garage point out they are clearly not what you paid for and get your money back...
Logged
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/tvpromo Get a free giffgaff sim running on O2 network
£5 free credit on first top-up
£5 gives you 60 mins, 300 texts & unltd calls and texts to anyone else on giffgaff

rickmv6

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • moreton  wirral
  • Posts: 55
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #11 on: 30 January 2011, 11:29:48 »

Is their anyway of checking weather thay have been labled the heads up wrong. one head had has code 90412231 and the other head has code 90412232. Not sure what this bloke has done with my original heads. thanks mate for the offer will speak to the garage and let you know.
Logged

sassanach

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • trowbridge
  • Posts: 1161
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #12 on: 30 January 2011, 12:29:15 »

if i recall correctly, the 2.5 heads will raise the compression ratio to unacceptable levels.if you are convinced they are 2.5 heads then do not fit!!! :y
Logged

sassanach

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • trowbridge
  • Posts: 1161
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #13 on: 30 January 2011, 12:33:35 »

just checked some 2.5 heads i have here, the numbers you have are for 2.5 heads, take them back!!
Logged

rickmv6

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • moreton  wirral
  • Posts: 55
    • View Profile
Re: 2.5v6 heads vs 3.0
« Reply #14 on: 30 January 2011, 12:34:08 »

thanks for the help everyone will phone the garage tomorrow and see about a refund and thanks pete have sent you a reply. thanks all. rick.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.012 seconds with 17 queries.