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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #45 on: 28 July 2011, 11:49:08 »

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3 pedals = spirited driving along A, B and back roads.

Yep. :y The above is not a satisfying experience when attempted with 2 pedals IMHO. ;)
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #46 on: 28 July 2011, 19:13:04 »

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On the 2.5 and 3.0 there is a mode select wire when when grounded makes the ECU work in manual config.

This same wire when connected to the auto ecu receives an ignition retard signal to back the power off during a auto box shift which in turn smooths the change.

No re-programming required!

thanks Mr DTM :y :y :y
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #47 on: 28 July 2011, 20:27:50 »

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I used my auto like a manual for long years..

and I can say even if you use 1, 2, 3 mode it hesitates for some fraction of second.. and it never pulls like a manual.. until 80.. (too late opponent gone ;D)

using auto is more like 2,3,4,5 where on a manual its like 1,2,3,4,5 ..

compare this auto

1 gear until 90 km/hr where as I use 1 until 50 and second 100 km/hr.. ratios are not even close.. :-/


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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #48 on: 28 July 2011, 22:45:20 »

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3 pedals = spirited driving along A, B and back roads.

Yep. :y The above is not a satisfying experience when attempted with 2 pedals IMHO. ;)

I'd agree with that.. there's a certain narrow, tight, twisty road on the way to work that is a hoot to drive in the MR2 but downright scary in the Omega, and it's not the size & weight but the autobox..
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #49 on: 28 July 2011, 23:12:20 »

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3 pedals = spirited driving along A, B and back roads.

Yep. :y The above is not a satisfying experience when attempted with 2 pedals IMHO. ;)


I'd agree with that.. there's a certain narrow, tight, twisty road on the way to work that is a hoot to drive in the MR2 but downright scary in the Omega, and it's not the size & weight but the autobox..

Yep.. Just lift off a little for this bend.. Ah! so I'm not going to get any engine braking today.. just freewheeling? :o New underwear, please!
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #50 on: 29 July 2011, 00:20:58 »

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3 pedals = spirited driving along A, B and back roads.

Yep. :y The above is not a satisfying experience when attempted with 2 pedals IMHO. ;)


I'd agree with that.. there's a certain narrow, tight, twisty road on the way to work that is a hoot to drive in the MR2 but downright scary in the Omega, and it's not the size & weight but the autobox..

Yep.. Just lift off a little for this bend.. Ah! so I'm not going to get any engine braking today.. just freewheeling? :o New underwear, please!

Yep, shortly followed by the "Ok, accelerate on the apex to settle the car and .. nothing, wait, no drive, ah, you're selecting a new gear, ok, now we get drive and the car's totally unsettled, thanks!"
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #51 on: 29 July 2011, 16:55:36 »

Its the 'balance the car on the throttle in the corner, increase the power hard as you straighten the wheels and....kick down!

Or, accelerate hard out in first, knock to second.....wait a bit, second.....
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #52 on: 30 July 2011, 10:25:21 »

Interested to hear more about this when job done.
Talking of octopussys should have seen me when i stuck my hand around the back of the engine to see if the HBV was leaking. Should have let the engine cool down realy. :o
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #53 on: 31 July 2011, 00:01:57 »

Right, Who's up for helping me do the conversion??

I work 10-15 mins from Newent and have access to a Vehicle workshop :)
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #54 on: 31 July 2011, 18:26:27 »

I could do two weeks on Friday
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #55 on: 01 August 2011, 08:51:49 »

Happy to lend a hand at Newent.

There are some things that can be done before e.g fitting the pedal box to help split the job down into smaller chunks.

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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #56 on: 01 August 2011, 09:31:20 »

parts must be prepared ..
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #57 on: 02 August 2011, 18:11:48 »

can you list the parts you have please ?
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #58 on: 02 August 2011, 19:53:53 »

One thing that`s,  often overlooked is the spigot bearing for the crank, make sure you have one of those, in fact off the top of my head here`s a quick list of things you will need.

Gearbox with slave cylinder
Gearbox crossmember
Front half of propshaft
Spigot bearing
Clutch and flywheel (a good opportunity to fit a lightened flywheel  ;) )
Flywheel bolts
Flywheel locking tool , easy to make yourself.
Pedal box
Copper/nickel brake pipe
brake pipe flaring tool
Gearstick
Rubber gator and adaptor plate for gear stick ( rivets to the transmission tunnel)
Silver or wood surround
Leather surround

If you have cruise fitted then you will want a clutch switch for the cruise loom
If it was me I would also use the fuel,injection loom from a manual car too and remove the auto loom and ECU.
I`d also fit two new propshaft rubber couplings and a new propshaft centre bearing carrier too as these can perish.
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Re: How Many Hours to do a Auto to Manual Conversion??
« Reply #59 on: 02 August 2011, 20:07:51 »

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One thing that`s,  often overlooked is the spigot bearing for the crank, make sure you have one of those, in fact off the top of my head here`s a quick list of things you will need.

Gearbox with slave cylinder
Gearbox crossmember
Front half of propshaft
Spigot bearing
Clutch and flywheel (a good opportunity to fit a lightened flywheel  ;) )
Flywheel bolts
Flywheel locking tool , easy to make yourself.
Pedal box
Copper/nickel brake pipe
brake pipe flaring tool
Gearstick
Rubber gator and adaptor plate for gear stick ( rivets to the transmission tunnel)
Silver or wood surround
Leather surround

If you have cruise fitted then you will want a clutch switch for the cruise loom
If it was me I would also use the fuel,injection loom from a manual car too and remove the auto loom and ECU.
I`d also fit two new propshaft rubber couplings and a new propshaft centre bearing carrier too as these can perish.
I have all the parts :y
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