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[dejongj]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

[markey mark]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !!

[cem_devecioglu]

I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!

exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!!

Not when they are dirty  

Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.

Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)

Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%

HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.

Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....

So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?

My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.

A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.

And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....

Please please please make certain they are adjusted properly, if I am blinded by those stupid aftermarket systems without levelling on them and have a crash I'll make certain to tell the opposite insurance assessor what to look for.

Whilst lights are to see, they are even more so there to be seen. That does not mean to blind other people. To see yourself better is easy, slow down! It is amazing what can be seen at a slower speed....

Both our cars have the official system on it, and admittedly it is annoying that the levelling system constantly adjusts them and especially going down a hill you don't shine far ahead at all with official HIDs....Aftermarket ones seem to beam up batman's signal...

Slow down??? you've obviously never driven a pre 98 omega then  - i'd need a man walking infront of me with a lantern if i went any slower

agreed..same..

[dejongj]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !!

Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...

But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....

Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...

Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see...

[cem_devecioglu]

if I'm not wrong this is going to be similiar end up like oil threads..

[dejongj]

if I'm not wrong this is going to be similiar end up like oil threads..

Wet and slippery from the tears  [smiley=cry.gif]

[HerefordElite]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !!

Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...

But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....

Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...

Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see...

right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of

[markey mark]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !!

Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...

But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....

Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...

Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see...

right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of

yep i agree pre 98 lights are crap !!

[dejongj]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !!

Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...

But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....

Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...

Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see...

right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of

Even if that is the case, they are nowhere near as dangerous as those aftermarket hid's without levelling installed end-of  

[cem_devecioglu]

at least everybody learned each others point of view

[Marks DTM Calib]

Fit aftermarket HIDs, wind the aim down with the manual adjuster and you have the same setup as auto HID's with a failed sensor  

Jobs a good un!

[cem_devecioglu]

Fit aftermarket HIDs, wind the aim down with the manual adjuster and you have the same setup as auto HID's with a failed sensor  

Jobs a good un!

lesson understood professor

[TheBoy]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !!

Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...

But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....

Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...

Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see...

right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of

Dirty HIDs have about the same light output was yellowed pre 98 lights.

If the lenses are in good condition, whilst not brilliant, they are OK.  Might be time for you to get newer lights if yours are that bad (though get projectors rather than ribbed type, as they are better

[zippo]

I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...

its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !!

Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...

But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....

Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...

Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see...

So thats what iam doing wrong, i need to have one or both eyes open
 

[VX1]

And now for my 2 peenies worth.

I agree, with the omega headlights they are crap (pre 98 models) the light being projected in front of you is so poor led torches would give better lighting. I have had brand new headlights on a car before and they were still poor. I now have projector lights on my elite (97) and the light is still poor but an improvement, I also have ice blue bulbs in them but still the light is not as good as some Omegas I have seen.

I will be purchasing a HID kit very soon and fit them to the car and hopefully have more light being projected in front of me for other road user's to see me coming. Therefore the theory of yellow headlights (bulbs) is completely pointless and more light is best.

HID kits are the best thing that was introduced onto the market so there, end of, thats final,no more said.