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[feeutfo]

Ooh yeah. He'll behave if there 3 of us. Gets frisky else! 

[aaronjb]

Did somebody mention Curry?

I owe you a curry, actually, Chrisgixer, and a new screwdriver and 3 leg puller. Don't let me forget.

I hope you've not been pulling Chris's 3rd leg.. (I know, I had to strain for that joke a bit)

[albitz]

I didnt deliberately misquote Jaime,just tried to remember what was said. I dont think my "quote" fundamentaaly altered what was in his original post. We have exchanged PM,s on the subject, and the tone on both sides was very different to the posts in the thread.
I think this has been done to death now,and starting to go round in circles.Needless to say, Im not going to go with the original idea of the thread.
Admins feel free to lock if you think apt.

[cem_devecioglu]

locking , no way

today I was busy writing the following section in notepad
when my mobile ring and a woman warn me and say you didnt come to your appointment..
opps.. I forgot my promise from last week.. and now I remember I forgot another job I had to do..
so will cut the writing a bit short.. (sorry for mistakes I will make as no editing is possible)


ok.. I can see the point of admins..they have their lifes, their jobs,
their normal duties plus managing/running OOF everyday and every hour..
so not an easy life.. and who will want an extra headache from the sales
section where things can really mess up and needs police intervention..
I must admit I too wouldnt want to involve in the last part..


however this picture, reflects only one side..

on the other side with many members and cars, there is a high demand for
cheap parts and mechanical work to be done obviously as not everyone
is a mechanic expert or highly experienced dyer .. Also not every one have
time to repair self or got the necessary tools..

And not everyone have the budget to pay for brand new parts..


Although this site aims mostly to help the dyer , its a fact that a high
percentage of members cant do it themselves.. because theory is not the same as
practice..


Now the subject for sellers and buyers..its not unusual for members here to earn few quids..
I believe none of us have easy lifes.. and this money wont make us rich as Darth pointed out..
 

there are many highly trustable sellers and buyers , which I had the chance to know a few of them..
but because of some rotten apples its not practical or correct to see everyone to be a potential shark..


now the sales section.. 
although the sales section is simply a burning stove, it must be handled somehow..
here I dont mean any offence to admins as they do their best.. but I want to say this section requires
more time and attention and arrangement as it can easily open a can of worms which the admins currently trying
to prevent .. as I said in an other thread, there are methods that can at least drop the percentage of disagreements
which trading sites already apply..yes,I know ebay is there but who prefers it..

there can be several precautions that can be made..

for example there are warnings in sale section (both car and parts) but according to my limited law knowledge
say, here it wont stop your liability in disputes.. so a legal warning with no liability claims is accepted for transactions
involved via OOF etc etc paragraph for the members will be useful imo.. (dont know about UK laws something similiar can be written)

also as a suggestion, it may be better to manage the sales section by a group of
proven sellers/buyers which may take part voluntarily.. also members entering this zone (buying or selling)
must give their personal info to section admins and pay some money via a bank transfer.. also newbies
trying to buy/sell parts can take their approval..  etc etc..

these are all my suggestions of course..  and I'm aware that the applicability of these ideas depends on
general acceptance from the admin team and the physical possibilities.. 

personally I'm fed up buying expensive parts from opel services and I buy them from OOF sellers..
so I think it tells many thing simply..

[feeutfo]

I didnt deliberately misquote Jaime,just tried to remember what was said. I dont think my "quote" fundamentaaly altered what was in his original post. We have exchanged PM,s on the subject, and the tone on both sides was very different to the posts in the thread.
I think this has been done to death now,and starting to go round in circles.Needless to say, Im not going to go with the original idea of the thread.
Admins feel free to lock if you think apt.

Well that's good of you Albs.

[albitz]

Looks like your Phd in low level sarcasm is coming along nicely Chris.

[twiglet]

Secondly, I genuinely believe that having a good supply of good quality, cheap parts is all part of a car forum.  The excellent advice given on OOF is great, but sometimes parts simply have to be replaced.

Agreed.

Personally, I only ever advertise parts on OOF first to give fellow members first dibs, after which I sell them on Ebay at higher prices.  Up until recently, I thought this was what everyone in OOF wanted.  However, as time goes on, I'm beginning to feel that a divide is forming within the forum, with certain members being actively segregated and pushed out by certain members of the admin team. 

I see it the other way round, with items being pushed for sale in all parts of the forum now, often in help threads where the OP is looking for (and has not yet received) help diagnosing a problem, instead of the parts for sale/wanted area where they belong.

Asking for help and being immediately offered umpteen second hand parts before you have diagnosed the problem is no use to anyone.

I take your point Kevin. I will hold my hand up and say I have done this several times recently. Not because I am trying to make my fortune by shifting parts on OOF, but because I was genuinely trying to help the OP's resolve their issues.  I genuinely didn't realise that doing this was causing issues within the admin team, or with other OOF members. However, Now that I've been made aware that it clearly is, I will no longer be posting and offering parts in the advice sections.

I would just like to say though, that sometimes members do not have the technical knowledge and abilities that some senior members take for granted. I'd like to use this thread as an example...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=93799.0

Kevin gave the OP a brilliant 'how to' showing him how to repair his central locking motor/solenoid, whereas I (rightly or wrongly) gave the OP the option of a replacement part. At the end of the day, the OP said he would prefer to simply replace to part.  I'm not saying that this is always the case, but I really don't see how giving people the option can be anything other than a good thing.

TB is right, when it comes to members needing to keep their cars on the road, the forum should treat anyone offering parts, labour or tech2 services the same. However, I not convinced that this is the case at present.

[paul.lovejoy]

well all in all think that all went well at least  nobody got upset

[Brikhead]

As said, you'll never become a millionaire selling old Omega parts but you should be able to make at least a bag of sand from a v6 Elite.

I've sold numerous items on this site but when 'customers' try and leave positive 'feedback' on the Forum they often have the post removed, yet you are allowed to sing the praises of established members with no reprisals.
Like most things in life it's all to do with who you know and does your face fit.

[Darth Loo-knee]

As said, you'll never become a millionaire selling old Omega parts but you should be able to make at least a bag of sand from a v6 Elite.

I've sold numerous items on this site but when 'customers' try and leave positive 'feedback' on the Forum they often have the post removed, yet you are allowed to sing the praises of established members with no reprisals.
Like most things in life it's all to do with who you know and does your face fit.

I have not yet seen any Thank You's removed from either someone pleased with Parts or Work done.
I would be intrested for you to show me which you are refering too, by PM if you prefer.
Cheers 

[Kevin Wood]

As said, you'll never become a millionaire selling old Omega parts but you should be able to make at least a bag of sand from a v6 Elite.

I've sold numerous items on this site but when 'customers' try and leave positive 'feedback' on the Forum they often have the post removed, yet you are allowed to sing the praises of established members with no reprisals.
Like most things in life it's all to do with who you know and does your face fit.

I have not yet seen any Thank You's removed from either someone pleased with Parts or Work done.
I would be intrested for you to show me which you are refering too, by PM if you prefer.
Cheers

I can't recall any votes of thanks ever being removed either, so I'd also be interested.

[Lazydocker]

As said, you'll never become a millionaire selling old Omega parts but you should be able to make at least a bag of sand from a v6 Elite.

I've sold numerous items on this site but when 'customers' try and leave positive 'feedback' on the Forum they often have the post removed, yet you are allowed to sing the praises of established members with no reprisals.
Like most things in life it's all to do with who you know and does your face fit.

I have not yet seen any Thank You's removed from either someone pleased with Parts or Work done.
I would be intrested for you to show me which you are refering too, by PM if you prefer.
Cheers

I can't recall any votes of thanks ever being removed either, so I'd also be interested.

Couldn't be bothered to comment on this, but I was thinking the same Although I wouldn't necessarily know as I can't see the "Recycle Bin"

[Kevin Wood]

Couldn't be bothered to comment on this, but I was thinking the same Although I wouldn't necessarily know as I can't see the "Recycle Bin"

I can see it, but it's normally too full of post counts...

 

[Lazydocker]

Couldn't be bothered to comment on this, but I was thinking the same Although I wouldn't necessarily know as I can't see the "Recycle Bin"

I can see it, but it's normally too full of post counts...

 

Don't you start... I've been a good boy lately

I suppose someone has to be the first to lose them on the new site...

[Darth Loo-knee]

Couldn't be bothered to comment on this, but I was thinking the same Although I wouldn't necessarily know as I can't see the "Recycle Bin"

I can see it, but it's normally too full of post counts...

 

Don't you start... I've been a good boy lately

I suppose someone has to be the first to lose them on the new site...

Completely slipped my mind!
Thanks for reminding me though...