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cem_devecioglu

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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #30 on: 02 November 2011, 22:07:27 »

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/

Don't reveal my sources, Cem!!  ;) ;D ;D ;D

 ;D :-\
 
honestly speaking, I dont care about EU.. and what happens to brussels sprouts..
 
but Greece is our neighbour country and if their economy become sick , we start to sneeze..
 
from the very beginning they depended too much on EU .. and no doubt euro also prepared this result..
 
now I can understand their dilemma.. if they vote yes, may be they will save the day for a while but what about future.. same conditions will apply and nothing will change.
 
if they vote no, next day they will wake up poor, and without a strong industry they cant overcome those economic problems in the short term.. however, if they vote no, in the long term I do really believe they can make things better ..we will see.
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #31 on: 02 November 2011, 22:30:48 »

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/

Don't reveal my sources, Cem!!  ;) ;D ;D ;D

 ;D :-\
 
honestly speaking, I dont care about EU.. and what happens to brussels sprouts..
 
but Greece is our neighbour country and if their economy become sick , we start to sneeze..
 
from the very beginning they depended too much on EU .. and no doubt euro also prepared this result..
 
now I can understand their dilemma.. if they vote yes, may be they will save the day for a while but what about future.. same conditions will apply and nothing will change.
 
if they vote no, next day they will wake up poor, and without a strong industry they cant overcome those economic problems in the short term.. however, if they vote no, in the long term I do really believe they can make things better ..we will see.

In my opinion, you are right, Cem. This is a time for nations to play the long game. Whatever their decision, it will be painful. However, I can liken it to a bad tooth. You can take the morphine and it will make you feel OK for a while, but when the morphine runs out, the tooth will have decayed more and the pain will be worse. Better to have the extraction now, even though it will hurt like hell.. ;) 
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« Reply #32 on: 03 November 2011, 05:06:24 »

The Germans and the French have announced that they are "giving Greece permission to have its referundum".
I hope the Greeks have the courage to vote no.
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #33 on: 03 November 2011, 07:20:49 »

The Germans and the French have announced that they are "giving Greece permission to have its referundum".
I hope the Greeks have the courage to vote no.



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giving Greece permission to have its referundum



Personally I give thanks that ‘Brussels’ is at the helm as we try to negotiate our way through the rough waters presently upsetting the good ship status quo. 8)

Surely I mustn't be alone in further thanking 'them' for giving us here, in this now inconsequential troubled land, permission to believe that we still have full control of our destiny and have their full blessing to retain the notion that we are indeed a sovereign nation, capable of putting our own people first and foremost and long before any political dogma: Dogma bought and paid for by these benefactors many of whom skulk behind those firmly closed doors that line the corridors of power in that fine European institution.

Where would we be without them?  :-\

<In a rather good Father Ted voice>

Sure isn’t the EU great?  :-* :-*
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #34 on: 03 November 2011, 07:33:02 »

Interesting times ahead I think Den. ;)
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« Reply #35 on: 03 November 2011, 10:25:07 »

Our chinese takeaway owner said he is giving no money to the taverna down the road. He will put his prices up tho' just in case ;D ;D
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« Reply #36 on: 03 November 2011, 11:32:19 »

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/

Don't reveal my sources, Cem!!  ;) ;D ;D ;D

 ;D :-\
 
honestly speaking, I dont care about EU.. and what happens to brussels sprouts..
 
but Greece is our neighbour country and if their economy become sick , we start to sneeze..
 
from the very beginning they depended too much on EU .. and no doubt euro also prepared this result..
 
now I can understand their dilemma.. if they vote yes, may be they will save the day for a while but what about future.. same conditions will apply and nothing will change.
 
if they vote no, next day they will wake up poor, and without a strong industry they cant overcome those economic problems in the short term.. however, if they vote no, in the long term I do really believe they can make things better ..we will see.

In my opinion, you are right, Cem. This is a time for nations to play the long game. Whatever their decision, it will be painful. However, I can liken it to a bad tooth. You can take the morphine and it will make you feel OK for a while, but when the morphine runs out, the tooth will have decayed more and the pain will be worse. Better to have the extraction now, even though it will hurt like hell.. ;)

 :y
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #37 on: 03 November 2011, 11:41:54 »

I can see the euro going the same way as the gold standard. A case of history repeating itself, methinks.... :-\
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #38 on: 03 November 2011, 12:17:12 »

Think I still have a stash of Greek Drachma in the draw at home, might be able to spend them after all!  ;D

Greece's biggest problem with voting No is that they will then be out of the Euro and will not get the preferential interest rates they enjoy as a result. They still owe a raft of cash and still need a raft of cash to keep afloat and pay the workers.

The result is no different, the Greek austerity measures will come either way.....theya re truely in the crap of thier own making.
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« Reply #39 on: 03 November 2011, 12:17:33 »

Breaking: Papandreou is expected to offer his resignation in the next half-hour (timed 12:11)
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« Reply #40 on: 03 November 2011, 13:01:12 »

Breaking: Papandreou is expected to offer his resignation in the next half-hour (timed 12:11)

Do you think he saw Merkel's hit squad coming and decided to get out now before his life tenure was cut short by other means?
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #41 on: 03 November 2011, 13:08:30 »

I hear he has officialy offered his resignation and so has the finance minister.

Typical politicians, 'its a bit hard so I'm off!'
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #42 on: 03 November 2011, 13:42:21 »

Breaking: Papandreou is expected to offer his resignation in the next half-hour (timed 12:11)

Do you think he saw Merkel's hit squad coming and decided to get out now before his life tenure was cut short by other means?



Smacks of regime change by the back door by Frau Merkel of the 4th reich and her little french gimp too me  >:(

Do as we say or else  >:( >:(
Just out of interest, who appointed Merkel as the head of Europe ?


Its now coming out that if you now leave the euro, you leave the common market  :o

I hope all the fans of europe are watching this because the day we join the euro, this nation will not exist  :'( :'(

Best we start making "merlin blocks" again and get them back on the beaches because Merkel will do ANYTHING to protect the fatherland  and she doesn't give a t*ss who she walks over to attain that >:( >:(
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #43 on: 03 November 2011, 14:52:11 »

I hear he has officialy offered his resignation and so has the finance minister.

Typical politicians, 'its a bit hard so I'm off!'

He hasn't resigned. Now they're just calling for his resignation. What a soap opera!  ;)
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Re: We are all saved! Greeks and the EU bailout
« Reply #44 on: 03 November 2011, 15:51:55 »

BBC news reported that he had tendered his resignation at lucnh (never trust the media!)

SO do the loans to these have the usual statemnet we get e.g.:

'Your country is at risk of you fail to keep up payments on your loan'  ;D ;D
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