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[Gaffers]

If this is true could it be down to Government cuts....trying desperately too clear thier collective messes up? If so none of our forces should be subjected to such as they appear to be overstrectched already.

  Are there still high ranking officers languishing on comfy salaries? If so they should be told thier position no longer exists & sent home. Not with nothing, they've contributed & benefitted our country to get where they are but maybe should be retired on an affordable pension.

   Just the thoughts of a civilian & not based on any real knowledge. Guy.

Admire the sentiment but alas you are misguided in your disdain for senior officers.  Many have been told they are being made redundant and many more junior officers will be wasted out of the forces by letting their commissions run out.

However if you think that senior officers dont care about the soldier would it suprise you to know that in the last 6 years all bar one of the pay rises were targeted uniquely at the soldier rank.

That said none of us went up an increment this year which will in turn affect our pensions.

[Gaffers]

well as i said i had heard it twice from different sources before the MOD came out and said it was'nt true..as for the angry brigade if you were ex forces and served and got injured  i think your view point may differ some what

Trust me when I say that there is no policy current or future which will force injured soldiers out.  Besides those that get redundnacy deals in the forces get a rather great deal tbh

This is a non story as various people in the know have been trying to tell you.

[TheBoy]

This is a non story as various people in the know have been trying to tell you.

We seem to have be infected by Daily Mail readers and BBC News watchers, who are gullible enough to think every report has been fully investigated and accurately reported.

I sincerely hope that the majority of the population are intelligent enough, and not too lazy, to take such reports with a pinch of salt 

[JIFFY]

the m.o.d is still and will allways be the most exclusive officers club in the world,
there has never and will never be any sort of comparison with junior ranks pay or conditions,injured or not,
i have served and seen this at first hand.

[Bionic]

All reported news should be taken with a truck load of salt. All they are interested in is their circulation figures and the glory of a headline!
What is the name of that journalistc prize? Pulitzer or Gob*hite?

  Are there high ranking officers sitting on comfy sofa's?
  Of course there is....and far too many of them at that, but there again its no differently ran than any other government or huge business empire. They all have hangers on who could be booted out and never missed. Trouble is that there would then be a glut of second hand sofas flooding the markets! Just look at the Parliament channel and see those slugs who sit there asleep while getting all their perks. Are they really serving their constituants?
The forces attempt to make respectful, responsible men of boys but there are always the minority who fall through the net. It disgusted me yesterday when at the Remberance parade held locally there was a group of my age, already showing the effects of drink who spoilt the 2 minute silence which was given in respect for the fallen and missing by discussing the football of the day before. When told to be quiet by a widow (recent conflict) accompanied by her young children they became abusive and threatening. My opinion on that scenario is that its a pity they were not the missing ones! Thankfully a larger, younger group still in service took offence at their behaviour and made it clear what the outcome would be.
It is very sad when something like that has to happen because there is precious little respect left in this country anymore.

[Abiton]

A simple "sorry" would have been a better use of your time this morning.  Oh, and maybe a "thank you" to Entwood for pointing out your mistake.

[Gaffers]

From the MOD News page this morning:

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Misleading media reports on Army redundancies and structure

14/11/2011


There have been various misleading and inaccurate media reports this weekend speculating on the future number of soldiers and the future structure of the British Army.
 
The speculation was based on a memo put together by a junior officer. As the Defence Secretary, the Chief of the Defence Staff and the Chief of the General Staff have all pointed out, the memo is factually incorrect.

It has already been announced that the Army has to reduce in size to 82,000 by 2020. The Army is still considering the criteria, including size and shape, for Tranche 2 and any subsequent redundancies, and nothing has yet been agreed.

Whilst every opportunity is being taken to reduce manpower through natural wastage and reduced intake, redundancies are needed to meet the 82,000 target.

There have also been media reports that personnel who are wounded, injured or sick will be forced out of the Army. No personnel who are medically downgraded will leave the Armed Forces through redundancy or otherwise until they have reached a point in their recovery where leaving the Armed Forces is the right decision, however long it takes.

The Chief of the Defence Staff, General Sir David Richards, has said:

"No-one will be forced out of the Army. They won't leave until it's right for them. Of course the Army is a young man's business. Most people leave within about ten years. So it's inevitable that they are going to have to leave the Army at some point and we've got to focus on being very combat-ready and well-trained.

"There is undoubtedly a limit on the number of injured personnel we can employ, but no-one will be forced out. We've put a lot of effort into this. As part of the Defence Recovery Capability there are six Army Recovery Centres right round the country whose core task is preparing people for transition into civilian life, and I am pleased to say that lots of personnel have made a successful transition.

"All the experts say it is better that they bite this bullet early while they're still young rather than linger on beyond a time when it's not so easy."

His comments were underlined by the Chief of the General Staff, General Sir Peter Wall, who added:

"Those injured on operations will continue to get the best medical treatment and aftercare the Army and the nation can provide. There is no question of wounded soldiers being made redundant whilst their recovery is best served by remaining in the Army.

"Equally, in due course, they may be better off embarking on a new career beyond the Army, and we will do everything within our gift to assist that transition. The media reports are a distortion of the facts and they are increasing uncertainty at an unsettling time for our soldiers, especially those currently on operations."

Media today have also reported that up to a fifth of Army battalions, including some historic battalions, could be cut under measures to restructure the Service.

A review of the future structure of the Army is ongoing and no conclusions have yet been reached. Idle speculation on the possible outcomes of that review only serves to bring about uncertainty for serving soldiers and their families.

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Can we put this to bed now?

[Amigo]

Maybe it's time to bunk down on this one & i hope all's well with all our MOD folks who i admire. At 16 i wanted to join the Royal transport core/corp? Dad took me to many interviews/assesments/medicals etc at the Horsham recruitment office & all went fine until i had to submit a school report which i was told by a lady officer "turned up at the corners"!!! She had a point. I was told to reapply when i was 17 & not a junior soldier & no school report needed. Sadly by then i'd added to my then juvenile criminal record for car theft. I would've had my 6 weeks initial training then shipped out to Dusseldorf. (1979)

   Instead i had my 3 months "training" at HMDC Haslar followed by a 6 month to two year Borstal @ Huntercombe in Henley where i managed to get on full time education & pass a few o levels i messed up at school. Thre 3 months DC was much harder than the longer sentence Borstal but Borstal sorted me out & stopped my silly ways. I was 20 when released in 1983 & never offended again.

   I still kinda wish the army had straightened me out instead but that was my silly fault.

   I bet many of us wish we knew then what we know now. Sorry for the yarn & i'll leave you will this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--HaFAtC17U

[tigers_gonads]

Everybody breaks / gets breaked up sometimes in there life.
Its only the degree of break up that varies.
Its what you do afterwards that counts in my book 

Fair play to you 
 

[Bionic]

Sorry?
Never...I stand by what I wrote and if its not liked then do not read it and find someone else or another subject to moan about.
Everyone in this country is entitled to their own opinion and are not legally or morally bound by those who would prefer everyone to bend to theirs. I did my time and so I am entitled to my say from my personal experiences.
Easy as that!