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Re: Indicators Stay on...solid...help
« Reply #15 on: 14 November 2011, 18:15:05 »

Dont need to lock/unlock 20-30 times.Need to switch hazards on/off 20-30 times.If that doesnt do the trick.The relays are definetely there up behind the glovebox - a bit awkward to see/ get at, but they are there.
In the unlikely event you need a new alarm ECU (control unit) there are plenty of used ones available, usually for no more than £20. :y


If the alarm ECU were at fault it would be both indicators. It doesn't control them individually. ;)

That rules out the alarm ECU completely then. :y I would concentrate on the hazard switch first,and then the relay. :y
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Re: Indicators Stay on...solid...help
« Reply #16 on: 14 November 2011, 18:15:46 »

IME on the later cars the Servotronic relay is with the consumer switch-off delay and accessory socket relay on the driver's side, but it may vary. In addition, OP has a 2.2 which doesn't have Servotronic.

I'm pretty sure this relay will be next to one or two empty sockets, as it shares the location with the trailer bulb failure sensor (normally absent) and the filter heating relay (tractor only).
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Re: Indicators Stay on...solid...help
« Reply #17 on: 14 November 2011, 18:24:02 »

Dont need to lock/unlock 20-30 times.Need to switch hazards on/off 20-30 times.If that doesnt do the trick.The relays are definetely there up behind the glovebox - a bit awkward to see/ get at, but they are there.
In the unlikely event you need a new alarm ECU (control unit) there are plenty of used ones available, usually for no more than £20. :y


If the alarm ECU were at fault it would be both indicators. It doesn't control them individually. ;)

That rules out the alarm ECU completely then. :y I would concentrate on the hazard switch first,and then the relay. :y
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« Reply #18 on: 14 November 2011, 18:43:56 »

OK, for the love of my car, I've just dangled upside and managed to fine something that looks like the cluster described in Freecall666's post http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90682.0

Only thing is there is only one relay, its small and grey like described but has numbers 190303 stamped on it. I would post an image of it...but looks like my add image icon is not working.

Would this be the one to yank out?

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« Reply #19 on: 14 November 2011, 18:46:30 »

Also, pulled the actual Hazard switch off the dash......changes nothing!
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« Reply #20 on: 14 November 2011, 22:04:06 »

If you can get your hand up behind the glove box just operate the central locking whilst feeling for the relay, you should hear and feel it working..

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« Reply #21 on: 14 November 2011, 22:59:20 »

this will help you to remove glovebox and stop the blood rushing to your head as you are doing acrobatics in passenger footwell  ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90660.0
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« Reply #22 on: 14 November 2011, 23:06:14 »

OK, for the love of my car, I've just dangled upside and managed to fine something that looks like the cluster described in Freecall666's post http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90682.0

Only thing is there is only one relay, its small and grey like described but has numbers 190303 stamped on it. I would post an image of it...but looks like my add image icon is not working.

Would this be the one to yank out?

Tom

Yep,pretty sure that will be the one. :y Hve you tried operating the hazards on/off 20-30 times as MarkDTM suggested ?
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« Reply #23 on: 15 November 2011, 09:33:48 »

Yanked the relay out....cured problem of lights staying on...however looks like this relay managed the indicators as well!! Not left or right turn....apart from the obvious....and last suggestions? Yes pressed hazard switch at least 40 times!

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« Reply #24 on: 15 November 2011, 10:26:55 »

New relay is next I suppose. :-\
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« Reply #25 on: 15 November 2011, 11:03:40 »

If the wiring diagram is correct and that relay is the one I think it is, I can't see why it would prevent the indicators working as usual. :-\
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« Reply #26 on: 15 November 2011, 13:02:07 »

Mmmmmh. Vx don't have the part in stock so have to wait. The tech guy actually said he wasn't aware of any relays up behind the glove box!! That said, he was adamant that just because pulling the relay 'fixed' the lights being on, it may be just because pulling broke the circuit, and it could still be the alarm ECU. Then I asked him about the lights being on both sides if it was the ECU....his response was that the ECU control each side independently, and that one side could be faulty?

New relay is £26 inc VAT, so going to wait for that to come in and try I guess....secondly, can anyone tell me how much a second hand Alarm Control Unit is for 2003 2.2 Omega Estate?

Thanks for all your advice so far...its great going to VX armed with some knowledge...albeit...3rd hand!

Tom
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« Reply #27 on: 15 November 2011, 13:09:25 »

Mmmmmh. Vx don't have the part in stock so have to wait. The tech guy actually said he wasn't aware of any relays up behind the glove box!! That said, he was adamant that just because pulling the relay 'fixed' the lights being on, it may be just because pulling broke the circuit, and it could still be the alarm ECU. Then I asked him about the lights being on both sides if it was the ECU....his response was that the ECU control each side independently, and that one side could be faulty?

New relay is £26 inc VAT, so going to wait for that to come in and try I guess....secondly, can anyone tell me how much a second hand Alarm Control Unit is for 2003 2.2 Omega Estate?

Thanks for all your advice so far...its great going to VX armed with some knowledge...albeit...3rd hand!


Tom
How much!!!!!!!!! Got a few of them in the shed
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Re: Indicators Stay on...solid...help
« Reply #28 on: 15 November 2011, 13:11:19 »

Mmmmmh. Vx don't have the part in stock so have to wait. The tech guy actually said he wasn't aware of any relays up behind the glove box!! That said, he was adamant that just because pulling the relay 'fixed' the lights being on, it may be just because pulling broke the circuit, and it could still be the alarm ECU. Then I asked him about the lights being on both sides if it was the ECU....his response was that the ECU control each side independently, and that one side could be faulty?

New relay is £26 inc VAT, so going to wait for that to come in and try I guess....secondly, can anyone tell me how much a second hand Alarm Control Unit is for 2003 2.2 Omega Estate?

Thanks for all your advice so far...its great going to VX armed with some knowledge...albeit...3rd hand!

Tom
No it doesn`t. Alarm ECU very rarely fails
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Re: Indicators Stay on...solid...help
« Reply #29 on: 15 November 2011, 19:40:38 »

If the wiring diagram is correct and that relay is the one I think it is, I can't see why it would prevent the indicators working as usual. :-\
Pulling the hazard switch out would stop them working ...............
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