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[Kevin Wood]

I still think it ought to be possible to modify the system to add inputs....

Something I've been meaning to look into on the 2006 although, given that there's no reason to keep that other than to avoid putting some modern carbuncle bristling with blue LEDs into the dash, there's less motivation than with a 2015.

Fitting my line level outputs revealed that there's a chip that does input selection, tone and gain controls and spits the audio out again in a 2006:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90541.0

It may be possible to use one of the inputs into that, and the setup on a 2015 might be similar.

Even if you can't use that to select another input, you could probably watch its' I2C lines to detect when phone mute and nav messages are active and mux the audio elsewhere..

I think it'd be pretty crazy to retro fit a Bose system for sound quality. Aftermarket amp and speakers are the way to go here, and either fit some line level outputs or feed them from the speaker outs.

I bought a bust Alpine MRV-F407 on Ebay for less than 20 quid. Couple of quid's worth of MOSFETs to replace the output stage that some chav had no doubt tortured to death and it's as good as gold... surely the route for a man of your calibre, Max.

[feeutfo]

Head unit will lose functions, esp remote display(cid) in dash. Imo this feature is the shining light of the system in omega. No other hu can replicate that apparently, so 2015 stays.....

In other words, what you appear to be saying is that the CID is nice, but the rest of the system is cr@p.

Surely getting a decent head unit and speakers, then mounting a TomTom in front of the hole where the CID was (or just remove it, replace with a MID so you've got the trip computer and forget it ever existed) would be the best solution?

At what point does the whole host of other features that you're missing outweigh the fact that it won't drive the CID?

That makes no sense to me Kev. Why in earth would anyone consider binning cid. And place a tomtom unit in place of it ?

Please dont complicate matters. These arey my prioritys, accept it.

I appreciate others will differ. But what modulator sales show is, sound quality is not a priority, due to modulator noise. But inputs are! ... Seems to me anyway.

[feeutfo]

Not sure how often we are hoing to have this same conversation guys. The outcome us always the same. .... Is it not? :-/

[Kevin Wood]

Head unit will lose functions, esp remote display(cid) in dash. Imo this feature is the shining light of the system in omega. No other hu can replicate that apparently, so 2015 stays.....

In other words, what you appear to be saying is that the CID is nice, but the rest of the system is cr@p.

Surely getting a decent head unit and speakers, then mounting a TomTom in front of the hole where the CID was (or just remove it, replace with a MID so you've got the trip computer and forget it ever existed) would be the best solution?

At what point does the whole host of other features that you're missing outweigh the fact that it won't drive the CID?

That makes no sense to me Kev. Why in earth would anyone consider binning cid. And place a tomtom unit in place of it ?

Please dont complicate matters. These arey my prioritys, accept it.

I appreciate others will differ. But what modulator sales show is, sound quality is not a priority, due to modulator noise. But inputs are! ... Seems to me anyway.

Well, that's something we can work on.

[Kevin Wood]

Not sure how often we are hoing to have this same conversation guys. The outcome us always the same. .... Is it not? :-/

Normally, yes. 

But.. we have 2 potential solutions:

Dave gets a more modern OEM head unit working in the Omega.

We figure out how to put an aux in on a 2015. Just need one to take to bits.

[MaxV6]

and thus my query if anyone has a knackered one i can investimagate 

[Dave DND]

anyone got a knackered 2013/5 i can pull apart and investigate ?

If going down the route of adding / modifying one of the inputs, then I would suggest to look at the troublesome changer section, as the mechanisms and lasers are now all on their last legs, but the electronics may prove interesting to play with.

Connection here would allow you to fool the unit into thinking the CD was playing (keeping external mutes alive etc) and has the best quality and most accessable signal path for sound reproduction of an external input.

I don`t have any 2013/2015s, but if you wanted to play, I probably could lay my hands on a CDC3 if you wanted one, as placing with the CCR2006 might be an easier one to get your head around first as less complicated

[Me]

I suspect it would be fairly trivial to fool the vertical board in the CDC3 into thinking the CD was playing, then fire in the audio to the vertical board, assuming it can be matched OK.

This would then work for CCR2006, CCRT2008 and NCDC.  And, those cars with a seperate CDC3 (not Omegas, except my Silver Bullet).

TheNaughtyBoy.

[VXL V6]

If I may add to the thread.

What do I want from my current system for the future?

1) I want to keep the NCDC head unit for the asthetics, Navigation and to run the CID (for Nav and board computer) and Telematics, I want to retain the mono line in for my other phone kit and trafficmaster.

2) I want to be able to connect a stereo line in that the head unit can overide for Navigation, RDS traffic, Phone input, Trafficmaster as it would the CDC3 (big hint there as to where it needs to interface!). If I have a decent quality stereo line in then that negates the need for the four disc changer....... If you don't have the changer you

   a) can remove it and have some space to mount the interface
   b) fit a NCDR2011 Bezel

3) I want to have a standard line out level connection so I can ditch the Bose amp and speakers and replace them with a 'standard amp' and 'standard speakers' by which I mean something better but not more than say £300 all in.

Not sure what others wish to achieve but that's what I would like to do.

I think CG's wish list can only be answered by a CD70 and some interface work... TMC etc have never and will never be an option on the NCDC range.

[feeutfo]

Tmc although irritating is a minor one tbh... I .... I think I'm getting over it... Slowly.

[feeutfo]

This works quite well IMO.
http://www.harmankardon.com/resources/Brands/harmankardon/Products/ProductRelatedDocuments/en-US/OwnersManual/DP1_US_revB_f.pdf

There is a bit of hiss/electronic interference with the very old generation iPod that work with it. However I have recently found that connecting iPhone 4 via 3.5mill jack gives almost zero hiss. Although there was a small amount if mobile phone buzz, but that's the phone not the uphill garden thing.

It is hard wired to the aerial though, not over the air. Input is on the side of the behind dash unit, or "brain" as they call it.

There does seem to be some fragility to the electrics, as TB will testify. The original one was fried. This one is brand new

[Me]

This works quite well IMO.
http://www.harmankardon.com/resources/Brands/harmankardon/Products/ProductRelatedDocuments/en-US/OwnersManual/DP1_US_revB_f.pdf

There is a bit of hiss/electronic interference with the very old generation iPod that work with it. However I have recently found that connecting iPhone 4 via 3.5mill jack gives almost zero hiss. Although there was a small amount if mobile phone buzz, but that's the phone not the uphill garden thing.

It is hard wired to the aerial though, not over the air. Input is on the side of the behind dash unit, or "brain" as they call it.

There does seem to be some fragility to the electrics, as TB will testify. The original one was fried. This one is brand new

I have a box of bits, if working, enough to make 2 complete units.  If someone is clever enough to want to repair them.

Its not a device I would use myself, as I don't own a gayPod. I'm not gay enough yet.

[feeutfo]

This works quite well IMO.
http://www.harmankardon.com/resources/Brands/harmankardon/Products/ProductRelatedDocuments/en-US/OwnersManual/DP1_US_revB_f.pdf

There is a bit of hiss/electronic interference with the very old generation iPod that work with it. However I have recently found that connecting iPhone 4 via 3.5mill jack gives almost zero hiss. Although there was a small amount if mobile phone buzz, but that's the phone not the uphill garden thing.

It is hard wired to the aerial though, not over the air. Input is on the side of the behind dash unit, or "brain" as they call it.

There does seem to be some fragility to the electrics, as TB will testify. The original one was fried. This one is brand new

I have a box of bits, if working, enough to make 2 complete units.  If someone is clever enough to want to repair them.

Its not a device I would use myself, as I don't own a gayPod. I'm not gay enough yet.

but you do have a gayphone, which you love dearly. With Tomtom I'm fairly sure.

[Kevin Wood]

but you do have a gayphone, which you love dearly. With Tomtom I'm fairly sure.

Adds up to a Self-adhesive navigation device. We're talking horticulture on quite a gradient here.

[feeutfo]

but you do have a gayphone, which you love dearly. With Tomtom I'm fairly sure.

Adds up to a Self-adhesive navigation device. We're talking horticulture on quite a gradient here.

mountain climer I'd say.