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Title: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 15:43:38
Really struggling with this no smokey  ::) I have the E fag currently charging on the laptop .. Not getting the nicotine fix i need  :'( Had to cut sugar out as of diabetic now so crawling the walls for a sugar fix and nicotine fix  :(
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: martin42 on 13 January 2014, 15:49:44
This is where you need to do something to take your mind of it,maybe buy some model kits for instance.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Gaffers on 13 January 2014, 15:52:09
There are some studies which claim that sugar can be as addictive as heroin.  Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.  Having gone through quitting both at separate times I feel for you right now, you must be going through hell.

Maybe doing some sport could help with a dopamine fix?  Also a good way of temporary relief from the fags is brushing your teeth :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 15:55:16
This is where you need to do something to take your mind of it,maybe buy some model kits for instance.

I was thinking of that yesterday  :) Maybe some sugar free sweets while im building it  :-\ Nurse said today that changing my diet and quitting fags all at once is a lot to cope with .. Im thinking a punch bag to de-stress or maybe buy a Peugeot and a couple of hammers  ::) ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 15:59:35
There are some studies which claim that sugar can be as addictive as heroin.  Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.  Having gone through quitting both at separate times I feel for you right now, you must be going through hell.

Maybe doing some sport could help with a dopamine fix?  Also a good way of temporary relief from the fags is brushing your teeth :y

S*it  :( Im thinking maybe some sugar free mints will keep me going  :-\ Just had a coffee with a sweetener , not too bad . Got some food here for you martin if you want it  :-\
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: CaptainZok on 13 January 2014, 16:05:23
This is where you need to do something to take your mind of it,maybe buy some model kits for instance.

I was thinking of that yesterday  :) Maybe some sugar free sweets while im building it  :-\ Nurse said today that changing my diet and quitting fags all at once is a lot to cope with .. Im thinking a punch bag to de-stress or maybe buy a Peugeot and a couple of hammers  ::) ;D
I've found these in the local Morrisons http://www.healthstore.uk.com/p526486/sula-sugar-free-butterscotch-sweets-42g.html (http://www.healthstore.uk.com/p526486/sula-sugar-free-butterscotch-sweets-42g.html)
Very nice and only 50p a packet.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: blackviper90210 on 13 January 2014, 16:07:35
Whatever you do, DO NOT eat lots of polo's!!

My dad gave up cigarettes and went through a packet a day of polo's. Went to the dentist for his check up and the dentist asked:

Have you quite smoking? Yes.

Are you eating polo's? Yes.

That's why your teeth are wearing away so quick! Polo's were stripping the enamel off his teeth and eroding them away.

HTH's :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 16:08:58
This is where you need to do something to take your mind of it,maybe buy some model kits for instance.

I was thinking of that yesterday  :) Maybe some sugar free sweets while im building it  :-\ Nurse said today that changing my diet and quitting fags all at once is a lot to cope with .. Im thinking a punch bag to de-stress or maybe buy a Peugeot and a couple of hammers  ::) ;D
I've found these in the local Morrisons http://www.healthstore.uk.com/p526486/sula-sugar-free-butterscotch-sweets-42g.html (http://www.healthstore.uk.com/p526486/sula-sugar-free-butterscotch-sweets-42g.html)
Very nice and only 50p a packet.

Quote
Excessive consumption may produce a laxative effect

 ::)

Mmm butterscotch  :P Very more-ish  :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 January 2014, 16:16:14
Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.

My cousin gave up smoking using nicotine patches and gum.  Although he found giving up smoking quite easy and has never started again, it took him 5 years to completely quit the nicotine dependency.  :o
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: CaptainZok on 13 January 2014, 16:17:07
Oh and check out Nairn's oatcakes. Nurse seemed quite pleased when I told her I was on them rather than ordinary biscuits.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Jusme on 13 January 2014, 16:18:19
All I can say EMD is...... 'GOOD LUCK'. Stick at it... :y :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 January 2014, 16:19:21
There are some studies which claim that sugar can be as addictive as heroin.  Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.  Having gone through quitting both at separate times I feel for you right now, you must be going through hell.

Maybe doing some sport could help with a dopamine fix?  Also a good way of temporary relief from the fags is brushing your teeth :y

Reformed Heroin addict Mr Guffer?
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 16:21:48
Oh and check out Nairn's oatcakes. Nurse seemed quite pleased when I told her I was on them rather than ordinary biscuits.

I think a late night shopping trip will be in order  ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: MR MISTER on 13 January 2014, 16:29:36
Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.

My cousin gave up smoking using nicotine patches and gum.  Although he found giving up smoking quite easy and has never started again, it took him 5 years to completely quit the nicotine dependency.  :o
Yep. I'm still on the gum. Five years.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Gaffers on 13 January 2014, 16:32:21
There are some studies which claim that sugar can be as addictive as heroin.  Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.  Having gone through quitting both at separate times I feel for you right now, you must be going through hell.

Maybe doing some sport could help with a dopamine fix?  Also a good way of temporary relief from the fags is brushing your teeth :y

Reformed Heroin addict Mr Guffer?

I wish I was.  It would have been easier than the ciggies :-[
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 January 2014, 16:37:00
There are some studies which claim that sugar can be as addictive as heroin.  Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.  Having gone through quitting both at separate times I feel for you right now, you must be going through hell.

Maybe doing some sport could help with a dopamine fix?  Also a good way of temporary relief from the fags is brushing your teeth :y

Reformed Heroin addict Mr Guffer?

I wish I was.  It would have been easier than the ciggies :-[

You could always give it a try....  :)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 January 2014, 16:50:42
Really struggling with this no smokey  ::) I have the E fag currently charging on the laptop .. Not getting the nicotine fix i need  :'( Had to cut sugar out as of diabetic now so crawling the walls for a sugar fix and nicotine fix  :(

Emd, very good news and congrats :y :y :y :y

the only thing I can say is please also steer clear from electronic fags.. I tried them and my body told that their chemicals are even worse than normal fags..  :-\

Captain Zok may not agree though ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 January 2014, 16:51:58
My wife gave up smoking with champix.. very effective and I definitely recommend it.. :y :y :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 17:00:47
Really struggling with this no smokey  ::) I have the E fag currently charging on the laptop .. Not getting the nicotine fix i need  :'( Had to cut sugar out as of diabetic now so crawling the walls for a sugar fix and nicotine fix  :(

Emd, very good news and congrats :y :y :y :y

the only thing I can say is please also steer clear from electronic fags.. I tried them and my body told that their chemicals are even worse than normal fags.. :-\

Captain Zok may not agree though ;D

Funny you should say that ... wont say my side effects but feel worse for using the E fag than smoking a roll up  :-[
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 January 2014, 17:02:53
Really struggling with this no smokey  ::) I have the E fag currently charging on the laptop .. Not getting the nicotine fix i need  :'( Had to cut sugar out as of diabetic now so crawling the walls for a sugar fix and nicotine fix  :(

Emd, very good news and congrats :y :y :y :y

the only thing I can say is please also steer clear from electronic fags.. I tried them and my body told that their chemicals are even worse than normal fags.. :-\

Captain Zok may not agree though ;D

Funny you should say that ... wont say my side effects but feel worse for using the E fag than smoking a roll up  :-[

yep.. ;D there many brands and lots of varieties.. which cant be controlled.. at least here they are uncontrolled :-\
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 17:05:29
E fag costs more than a pack of tobac so im worse of , wondering why they dont prescribe the E fag ... not scientifically proven  :(

Champix is available though  ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: CaptainZok on 13 January 2014, 17:06:31
Really struggling with this no smokey  ::) I have the E fag currently charging on the laptop .. Not getting the nicotine fix i need  :'( Had to cut sugar out as of diabetic now so crawling the walls for a sugar fix and nicotine fix  :(

Emd, very good news and congrats :y :y :y :y

the only thing I can say is please also steer clear from electronic fags.. I tried them and my body told that their chemicals are even worse than normal fags.. :-\

Captain Zok may not agree though ;D

Funny you should say that ... wont say my side effects but feel worse for using the E fag than smoking a roll up  :-[
That may point to you being sensitive to Propylene Glycol. Try juice with a higher Glycerine content. You're not using the cheapo market stall juices are you? Some of those are known to cause problems.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: CaptainZok on 13 January 2014, 17:09:18
E fag costs more than a pack of tobac so im worse of , wondering why they dont prescribe the E fag ... not scientifically proven  :(
If it's costing more than tobacco you're being ripped off. We've saved over a grand since last Feb and that's buying baccy at under the counter prices.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 January 2014, 17:10:51
E fag costs more than a pack of tobac so im worse of , wondering why they dont prescribe the E fag ... not scientifically proven  :(

Champix is available though  ;)

its the way to go imo..

dont replace any addiction with another :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 January 2014, 17:15:35
Just read up on E fag and turns out cancer-causing substances (carcinogens)
are present in the top 2 market leading brands  >:( Goin to go back to nursie for something else .
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 January 2014, 17:34:11
Maybe so, but the odds are far better with e fags than with normal fags.


Best of luck EMD keep at it. :y any change in your routine is going to be hard though. But hate those fags. They are trying to kill you. AND charging you for the privilege. >:(

Repeat to fade... I am a non smoker. I am a non smoker. I am a non smoker....:y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Andy B on 13 January 2014, 17:34:17
Really struggling with this no smokey  ::) ....

Keep at it ..... it's hard work. :y :y

As cem suggests try Champix - SWMBO used it with the required effect (I used its predecessor)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 January 2014, 17:52:21
Good luck Steve, I'm still on Nicotine patches.....after 4 years  :o :-[
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: martin42 on 13 January 2014, 17:53:17
There are some studies which claim that sugar can be as addictive as heroin.  Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.  Having gone through quitting both at separate times I feel for you right now, you must be going through hell.

Maybe doing some sport could help with a dopamine fix?  Also a good way of temporary relief from the fags is brushing your teeth :y

S*it  :( Im thinking maybe some sugar free mints will keep me going  :-\ Just had a coffee with a sweetener , not too bad . Got some food here for you martin if you want it  :-\
Umm chocolate i hope lol,let me know what you got mate :)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Rods2 on 13 January 2014, 17:58:37
Keep at it, stay strong, and the best of luck in quitting.  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 January 2014, 18:02:20
One day at a time :y

For oatcakes, Tescos sell Stockans Oat Cakes, which are the blocks as oatcakes go :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: flyer 0712 on 13 January 2014, 18:09:22
I gave up smoking twice....first time failed after stopping for 5 months.......afterwards i was so damm angry at myself for going back to them that i swore i would give up the second time without out fail.....My god was that hard but to make it easier i did it with a friend who also wanted to stop......My friend gave up after a month so i laid into him taking the pee at every chance i got,How ever then realized that after shouting my gob off at him i dare not give in.....for fear of reprisals ...Sorry to say there is no easy way out....You need sheer willpower to do this.........i managed to do it that time and that was 30 years ago and smoking 40 a day.....and so glad i managed to quit.......I wish you well in your attempt to quit,it aint  easy but it is well worth it.....Good luck matey.. :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 January 2014, 18:50:57
pumpkin seeds are also helpful.. (without salt)  stay away from tea and coffe)

bitter chocolate also stops the need

ashtrays, lighters , fags must never be around..  and although not very desirable, taking low dose metformin definitely helps (I discovered)

every time you need one, go out and have a walk..
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omegod on 13 January 2014, 19:21:18
Been messing around with a vapouriser thing for the last week, been up to 1 1/2 day without but it seems to do the job so will be giving the fags the heave ho today. I must say even this short a time I have noticed i'm spending so much less money. :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 14 January 2014, 12:29:30
Went to pharmacy and now have nicotine patches and an inhalator . Nice young lady was saying they dont recommend the Electronic fags because of unknown chemicals in them and they have not been proven . Hope this new batch of stuff will do the trick  ::)


Now need a sugar fix  :D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 January 2014, 12:53:28
Went to pharmacy and now have nicotine patches and an inhalator . Nice young lady was saying they dont recommend the Electronic fags because of unknown chemicals in them and they have not been proven . Hope this new batch of stuff will do the trick  ::)


Now need a sugar fix  :D


Emd, one problem at a time..  :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 14 January 2014, 12:59:00
Went to pharmacy and now have nicotine patches and an inhalator . Nice young lady was saying they dont recommend the Electronic fags because of unknown chemicals in them and they have not been proven . Hope this new batch of stuff will do the trick  ::)


Now need a sugar fix  :D


Emd, one problem at a time..  :y

I have emptied cupboards of chocolate , white bread , butter ect all what is bad .. now have empty cupboards  :( ::)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cleggy on 14 January 2014, 14:10:52
Man up, it's only an addiction ::) It will get easier after the irrational behaviour stage is over ;D ;D

If I could give up after 40 years with the help of patches you can, 5 years nicotine free now and feel so much better and wealthier, STICK WITH IT :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 14 January 2014, 15:30:01
Man up, it's only an addiction ::) It will get easier after the irrational behaviour stage is over ;D ;D

If I could give up after 40 years with the help of patches you can, 5 years nicotine free now and feel so much better and wealthier, STICK WITH IT :y

40 years smoking for me too cleggy  :-[ Not feeling too bad but these patches are a bit chewy  ::) ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 January 2014, 19:30:11
ok.. recipe.. empty your bowels with metformin.. than go in bed and try sleeping.. when sleep is over exercise.. and drink lots of water.. and only bitter chocolate not sweets.. when on rest pumpkin seeds and some tv films..

and no pepper on food..   :y

but eat as little as possible..

Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: MR MISTER on 14 January 2014, 19:31:45
ok.. recipe.. empty your bowels with metformin.. than go in bed and try sleeping.. when sleep is over exercise.. and drink lots of water.. and only bitter chocolate not sweets.. when on rest pumpkin seeds and some tv films..
Or.....just get on with it yer fickin wimp. :P
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 January 2014, 19:33:05
ok.. recipe.. empty your bowels with metformin.. than go in bed and try sleeping.. when sleep is over exercise.. and drink lots of water.. and only bitter chocolate not sweets.. when on rest pumpkin seeds and some tv films..
Or.....just get on with it yer fickin wimp. :P

another wimp here  ;D :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: henryd on 14 January 2014, 20:12:51
Man up, it's only an addiction ::) It will get easier after the irrational behaviour stage is over ;D ;D

If I could give up after 40 years with the help of patches you can, 5 years nicotine free now and feel so much better and wealthier, STICK WITH IT :y

40 years smoking for me too cleggy  :-[ Not feeling too bad but these patches are a bit chewy  ::) ;D

They are a bugger to keep lit too ;) ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: D on 15 January 2014, 00:04:08
ok.. recipe.. empty your bowels with metformin.. than go in bed and try sleeping.. when sleep is over exercise.. and drink lots of water.. and only bitter chocolate not sweets.. when on rest pumpkin seeds and some tv films..

and no pepper on food..   :y

but eat as little as possible..

I know English isn't your first language, but what is that all about? Metformin is a treatment for diabetes, not a laxative to empty your bowels with! Pepper has nothing to do with diabetes! And if you tell a diabetic to eat as little as possible, you are possibly setting them up for a disaster called hypoglycaemia which by the way is often fatal.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 15 January 2014, 13:46:49
I am adjusting to eating healthier foods , sardines and salad with brown bread today for lunch . Maybe jacket potato and beanz later  :) The inhalator seems to be working together with the patches  :y
Oh forgot to say nursie said i need to loose 2 stone  :-[ Hope its going to drop off  :-\
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Jusme on 15 January 2014, 16:47:49
" BLIMEY" ! EMD..Hope its going to drop off 'IT' weighs 2 stone??
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2014, 18:47:13
ok.. recipe.. empty your bowels with metformin.. than go in bed and try sleeping.. when sleep is over exercise.. and drink lots of water.. and only bitter chocolate not sweets.. when on rest pumpkin seeds and some tv films..

and no pepper on food..   :y

but eat as little as possible..

I know English isn't your first language, but what is that all about? Metformin is a treatment for diabetes, not a laxative to empty your bowels with! Pepper has nothing to do with diabetes! And if you tell a diabetic to eat as little as possible, you are possibly setting them up for a disaster called hypoglycaemia which by the way is often fatal.

D, its got nothing to do with language.. and probably you missed the diabet thread.. so dont jump in conclusions without knowing whats behind..

and by the way a lot of OOFers is suffering from the same problem like I do.. and we know what we are talking about.. so no worries..
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Rods2 on 15 January 2014, 18:51:41
ok.. recipe.. empty your bowels with metformin.. than go in bed and try sleeping.. when sleep is over exercise.. and drink lots of water.. and only bitter chocolate not sweets.. when on rest pumpkin seeds and some tv films..

and no pepper on food..   :y

but eat as little as possible..

I know English isn't your first language, but what is that all about? Metformin is a treatment for diabetes, not a laxative to empty your bowels with! Pepper has nothing to do with diabetes! And if you tell a diabetic to eat as little as possible, you are possibly setting them up for a disaster called hypoglycaemia which by the way is often fatal.

I had a friend with type 1 diabetes who went into a hypoglycaemia coma and died.  :'(
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2014, 19:11:46
ok.. recipe.. empty your bowels with metformin.. than go in bed and try sleeping.. when sleep is over exercise.. and drink lots of water.. and only bitter chocolate not sweets.. when on rest pumpkin seeds and some tv films..

and no pepper on food..   :y

but eat as little as possible..

I know English isn't your first language, but what is that all about? Metformin is a treatment for diabetes, not a laxative to empty your bowels with! Pepper has nothing to do with diabetes! And if you tell a diabetic to eat as little as possible, you are possibly setting them up for a disaster called hypoglycaemia which by the way is often fatal.

I had a friend with type 1 diabetes who went into a hypoglycaemia coma and died.  :'(

 ::)   
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2014, 19:15:09
ok.. even a perfectly normal person can die from hypoglycemia ..  ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cam2502 on 16 January 2014, 09:52:41
Sorry cem, that smiley you used in the 2nd above post is out of line.
 I am a health care professional and hypoglycaemia can certainly be fatal . Just thought your post there was a bit on the condescending side.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: henryd on 16 January 2014, 10:47:42
Sorry cem, that smiley you used in the 2nd above post is out of line.
 I am a health care professional and hypoglycaemia can certainly be fatal . Just thought your post there was a bit on the condescending side.

Cem you were also contradicting D's advice as well,pretty sure his day job is a doctor ::)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: 05omegav6 on 16 January 2014, 11:15:28
Sorry cem, that smiley you used in the 2nd above post is out of line.
 I am a health care professional and hypoglycaemia can certainly be fatal . Just thought your post there was a bit on the condescending side.

Cem you were also contradicting D's advice as well, pretty sure his day job is a doctor ::)
That he is...
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: slowboy on 16 January 2014, 12:28:56
gum :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 January 2014, 13:39:13
Sorry cem, that smiley you used in the 2nd above post is out of line.


I dont think so

 I am a health care professional andhypoglycaemia can certainly be fatal .


And do you really think I dont know this ???  I have lost a relative just because of that reason and I have warned the thread owner in another thread..  for your information..








 Just thought your post there was a bit on the condescending side.


anwers above
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 January 2014, 13:41:38
Sorry cem, that smiley you used in the 2nd above post is out of line.
 I am a health care professional and hypoglycaemia can certainly be fatal . Just thought your post there was a bit on the condescending side.

Cem you were also contradicting D's advice as well,pretty sure his day job is a doctor ::)


Doctors are giving high doses of unnecessary drugs daily all around the world..  and they killed my mother.. so dont get me started >:(
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 January 2014, 13:42:17
Sorry cem, that smiley you used in the 2nd above post is out of line.
 I am a health care professional and hypoglycaemia can certainly be fatal . Just thought your post there was a bit on the condescending side.

Cem you were also contradicting D's advice as well, pretty sure his day job is a doctor ::)
That he is...


and we didnt know that thanks Al!
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 January 2014, 13:45:00
I see a rush to jump in the wagon as usual.. but I'm no more sorry to see that..


for those who decided to warn me go and read what I have written in the related other thread..



Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 January 2014, 13:52:07
I see a rush to jump in the wagon as usual.. but I'm no more sorry to see that..


for those who decided to warn me go and read what I have written in the related other thread..





Cem. Seriously....

Your not doing yourself any favours here.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 January 2014, 13:56:47
I see a rush to jump in the wagon as usual.. but I'm no more sorry to see that..


for those who decided to warn me go and read what I have written in the related other thread..





Cem. Seriously....

Your not doing yourself any favours here.


and a last note hypoglycemia is not written as hypoglycaemia..
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 January 2014, 13:58:12
;D suit yourself ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 January 2014, 13:59:26
So EMD, how's to going? Not too difficult I hope.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: aaronjb on 16 January 2014, 14:31:59
and a last note hypoglycemia is not written as hypoglycaemia..

It is if you're not American..

Quote
hypoglycaemia |ˌhʌɪpəʊglʌɪˈsiːmɪə|(US hypoglycemia )
noun [ mass noun ] Medicine
deficiency of glucose in the bloodstream.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 16 January 2014, 15:17:15
So EMD, how's to going? Not too difficult I hope.

Some days better than others tbh (http://forums.startreknewvoyages.com/Smileys/classic/head_bang.gif)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Gaffers on 16 January 2014, 15:23:27
So EMD, how's to going? Not too difficult I hope.

Some days better than others tbh (http://forums.startreknewvoyages.com/Smileys/classic/head_bang.gif)

Stick at it mate, you're doing well :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: tigers_gonads on 16 January 2014, 15:26:54
Keep going bud.
No surrender
It's now personal between you and the craving.
Don't let it win because believe me, its well worth it  :)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 January 2014, 17:05:30
and a last note hypoglycemia is not written as hypoglycaemia..

It is if you're not American..

Quote
hypoglycaemia |ˌhʌɪpəʊglʌɪˈsiːmɪə|(US hypoglycemia )
noun [ mass noun ] Medicine
deficiency of glucose in the bloodstream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia 


 ::)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: aaronjb on 16 January 2014, 17:21:35
and a last note hypoglycemia is not written as hypoglycaemia..

It is if you're not American..

Quote
hypoglycaemia |ˌhʌɪpəʊglʌɪˈsiːmɪə|(US hypoglycemia )
noun [ mass noun ] Medicine
deficiency of glucose in the bloodstream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia 


 ::)

I've .. no idea what you're telling me as Wikipedia says the same thing, that it can be written both ways?
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 January 2014, 18:20:13
and a last note hypoglycemia is not written as hypoglycaemia..

It is if you're not American..

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hypoglycaemia |ˌhʌɪpəʊglʌɪˈsiːmɪə|(US hypoglycemia )
noun [ mass noun ] Medicine
deficiency of glucose in the bloodstream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia) 


 ::)

I've .. no idea what you're telling me as Wikipedia says the same thing, that it can be written both ways?


what is written at the top of page ?  ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 17 January 2014, 12:37:45
At the stage of thinking a smoke wont harm and nip out and get a 10 pack  :-[ but ill feel sick having a smoke then feel bad i did it  ::) And a juicy steak with chips is on my mind with a jam rollie pudding with custard for afters  :(
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cleggy on 17 January 2014, 13:13:30
Stick with it,it really is worth it and it gets easier. :y :y

Have the steak and chips as a reward to yourself with the money saved on fags ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 January 2014, 13:17:56
Don't do it EMD!!  :o

Be strong and don't give in!!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: MR MISTER on 17 January 2014, 13:27:53
At the stage of thinking a smoke wont harm and nip out and get a 10 pack  :-[ but ill feel sick having a smoke then feel bad i did it  ::) And a juicy steak with chips is on my mind with a jam rollie pudding with custard for afters  :(
In my humble opinion, you've got very little chance of success if you follow your current regime. You can't just stop everything all at once, it simply will not work. You need to do it one thing at a time. Decide which is most important and concentrate on that (that would be smoking for me). As for your diet, promise yourself a treat now and again and look forward to it.
You are either a smoker or you aren't, there is a bit more leeway with food.
Just my tuppence worth........from experience.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 January 2014, 13:50:26
Emd, red meat (oily or not) will increase hormone production.. which then will trigger desire for smoke..


of course you cant stay hungry with a type 2 ..


but as you become older your bowel movements will slow down ..


to compansate you have to exercise and eat less ..  or if you eat same as before you have to take metformin or similiar things to decrease absorption ..  its a known fact that when blood sugar levels increase it also triggers desire to smoke..


also , when you gave up smoking your bowels will slow down more at first which later may turn to normal.. but if you continue to eat same as before you will gain excess weight which will worsen the picture for type 2


and get a blood glucose metering device and keep under hand..  so those who scares you with hypoglycemia will feel better :D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 17 January 2014, 14:07:18
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you have to take metformin

Ive been taking the metformin cem and eating less , stomach shrinks with eating less or so im told  :-\ I haven't given in to the fags and still puffing on the inhalator but not getting the same kick as a smoke  :( Would a steak and chips be ok for a treat at the weekend say  :-\
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 January 2014, 14:55:10
Resist temptation, but buy a 4oz steak rather than a big slab, and oven cooked sweet potato wedges rather than pan fried chips :y oh and some salad on the side... ::)

Also you can by diabetic icecream too 8) Waitrose and Tescos both sell it, so you don't have to shit out completely  :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: aaronjb on 17 January 2014, 15:01:42
so you don't have to shit out completely  :y

Although if you eat too many things sweetened with 'sugar substitutes' .. well, read the reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/dp/B000EVQWKC)! ;D

(On a serious note, I agree with Al - just downsize the portions .. everything in moderation, as they say)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 17 January 2014, 15:03:58
so you don't have to shit out completely  :y

Although if you eat too many things sweetened with 'sugar substitutes' .. well, read the reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/dp/B000EVQWKC)! ;D

(On a serious note, I agree with Al - just downsize the portions .. everything in moderation, as they say)
Including moderation. :y

Apart from smoking of course ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 January 2014, 16:19:53
so you don't have to shit out completely  :y

Although if you eat too many things sweetened with 'sugar substitutes' .. well, read the reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/dp/B000EVQWKC)! ;D

(On a serious note, I agree with Al - just downsize the portions .. everything in moderation, as they say)
Including moderation. :y

Apart from smoking of course ;)
Yup that too ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 January 2014, 19:21:37
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you have to take metformin

Ive been taking the metformin cem and eating less , stomach shrinks with eating less or so im told  :-\ I haven't given in to the fags and still puffing on the inhalator but not getting the same kick as a smoke  :( Would a steak and chips be ok for a treat at the weekend say  :-\

only for the weekend yes ;D   but as told be very careful about the kidneys..  and some peoples system dont give dont give good response to metformin.. if you have problem with it  and if it continues talk to doc for another prescription.. there are lighter ones..

please check this
http://chealth.canoe.ca/drug_info_details.asp?brand_name_id=215&page_no=2
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cam2502 on 17 January 2014, 19:22:57
Emd, red meat (oily or not) will increase hormone production.. which then will trigger desire for smoke..


of course you cant stay hungry with a type 2 ..


but as you become older your bowel movements will slow down ..


to compansate you have to exercise and eat less ..  or if you eat same as before you have to take metformin or similiar things to decrease absorption ..  its a known fact that when blood sugar levels increase it also triggers desire to smoke..


also , when you gave up smoking your bowels will slow down more at first which later may turn to normal.. but if you continue to eat same as before you will gain excess weight which will worsen the picture for type 2


and get a blood glucose metering device and keep under hand..  so those who scares you with hypoglycemia will feel better :D



Mmm...some of the "advice" you are giving out Dr cem scares the life out of me.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 January 2014, 09:53:59
Interesting headlines on diet this morning.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 January 2014, 10:56:55
Interesting headlines on diet this morning.

Where? Daily Mail? Can we have a link please Chris??  :)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 20 January 2014, 13:20:56
Still not had a smoke  :) 7-8 days i think  :-\  I see in the news there is alarm about how much sugar people take and possibly addicted to sugar  :o My cravings have all but gone  :y Feeling a little better than i use to when i smoked , it will be a long process but you have to have the will to carry on  ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 January 2014, 13:40:14
Interesting headlines on diet this morning.

Where? Daily Mail? Can we have a link please Chris??  :)

Research into a cure for Diabetes, something about eating more berries. Or what's in the berries, and red wine.

Doesn't spund too bad. ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 20 January 2014, 13:54:08
I can eat fruit but not too much  :( Grapes apparently are a no no .. think i know why as if you eat one you have to eat the whole bunch  :-X Only smokie thing left will be the omega .. but thats steam not smoke i think  ::) ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 January 2014, 14:24:47
Interesting headlines on diet this morning.

Where? Daily Mail? Can we have a link please Chris??  :)

Research into a cure for Diabetes, something about eating more berries. Or what's in the berries, and red wine.

Doesn't spund too bad. ;)

spund?  ;D

C'mon give us a Fail link!! You know you want to!!  ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 January 2014, 14:48:51
Interesting headlines on diet this morning.

Where? Daily Mail? Can we have a link please Chris??  :)

Research into a cure for Diabetes, something about eating more berries. Or what's in the berries, and red wine.

Doesn't spund too bad. ;)

sound?  ;D

C'mon give us a Fail link!! You know you want to!!  ;)
Fixed

I shall leave that to Rods. ;D

Fail won't cover it anyway, too positive a story. ::) now if it was found that there was no cure, that would be front page news ;D

Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Rods2 on 22 January 2014, 17:53:56
Interesting headlines on diet this morning.

Where? Daily Mail? Can we have a link please Chris??  :)

Research into a cure for Diabetes, something about eating more berries. Or what's in the berries, and red wine.

Doesn't spund too bad. ;)

sound?  ;D

C'mon give us a Fail link!! You know you want to!!  ;)
Fixed

I shall leave that to Rods. ;D

Fail won't cover it anyway, too positive a story. ::) now if it was found that there was no cure, that would be front page news ;D

Is this the link you were thinking of Chris?  ???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2534306/A-diet-cure-diabetes-Patients-able-come-tablets-two-months-low-calorie-regime.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2534306/A-diet-cure-diabetes-Patients-able-come-tablets-two-months-low-calorie-regime.html)

Still in its early stages of development but looks very promising.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: D on 22 January 2014, 22:24:57
Not too surprising a concept really. One of the theories of developing late onset type 2 diabetes is that you wear out your insulin producing cells due to eating too much. So, if you control your intake of food, then your diabetic control will improve. Question is how long for and what happens when you start eating too much again?
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cleggy on 26 January 2014, 18:02:36
How's it going ???
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 27 January 2014, 14:32:20
How's it going ???

2 weeks still not had a smokie  :y Think i have done well considering i'd been smoking nearly 40 yrs . Breathing has improved and no longer weezing at night . Back to see the pharmacy on Wednesday to reduce the strength of patches and inhaler . Lost a bit of weight also with the diet  :)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 January 2014, 14:35:56
Well done!!  :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cleggy on 27 January 2014, 14:47:25
Well done!!  :y

+1  :y
It gets easier from now on, keep it up :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 27 January 2014, 14:47:52
Well done!!  :y

Cheers mate  :y Still quite frustrating with the diet as i could kill a syrup sponge and custard  ::) but have a treat/meal out once a foughtnight with the money saved on tabs  :y

Well done!!  :y

+1  :y
It gets easier from now on, keep it up :y

 ;)

No going back now , have you seen the price of cigs now  :o
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: CaptainZok on 27 January 2014, 15:04:05
The nurse tells me that everybody succumbs to a treat now and again and provided it's not an everyday occurence there's no real harm in it.
Maybe have a syrup sponge as your fortnightly treat once in a while.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 27 January 2014, 15:14:04
The nurse tells me that everybody succumbs to a treat now and again and provided it's not an everyday occurence there's no real harm in it.
Maybe have a syrup sponge as your fortnightly treat once in a while.

Went out with family to a pub dinner and had small steak with about 10 chips , 10 chips all i can have  :( a few weeks ago i had the rollie poly with custard for afters but resisted it this time . Agree and nurse did say to have a treat now and then , just not every day  ::) I have said i could easily have a cig but i know ill feel sick if i did so ill carry on cig/less  :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Shackeng on 27 January 2014, 16:08:14
Well done EMD, you've done great so far. I gave up a 20 a day habit nearly 40 years ago, and have felt so much better for it since. :y :y :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 27 January 2014, 16:40:03
Good stuff Emd. Keep fighting it :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 29 January 2014, 18:44:33
Went to see nurse today and that meter thing you blow in has come down from 7 to 2  :o :y Well pleased with that she was . Think ive stubbed the habbit for good now , dont even crave for one after a meal  :)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2014, 18:54:22
Well done, Mr Emd. You'll save a lot of money from not smoking.

Enough to buy another Omega. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2014, 18:56:07
I smoked my last fag in 1980.

Gold Leaf at 51p for 20. :y :y

When I was short of cash I'd often buy a packet of Players No6.......or even worse Players No10. :-\
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 January 2014, 19:12:29
I smoked my last fag in 1980.

Gold Leaf at 51p for 20. :y :y

When I was short of cash I'd often buy a packet of Players No6.......or even worse Players No10. :-\

Is that the smoking equivalent of Special Brew and White Lightening :-\
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2014, 19:49:39
I smoked my last fag in 1980.

Gold Leaf at 51p for 20. :y :y

When I was short of cash I'd often buy a packet of Players No6.......or even worse Players No10. :-\

Is that the smoking equivalent of Special Brew and White Lightening :-\

More like meths and turps. ;D ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 29 January 2014, 19:53:39
How's it going ???

2 weeks still not had a smokie  :y Think i have done well considering i'd been smoking nearly 40 yrs . Breathing has improved and no longer weezing at night . Back to see the pharmacy on Wednesday to reduce the strength of patches and inhaler . Lost a bit of weight also with the diet  :)

very good news and congrats Emd.. keep going  :y :y :y :y :y

Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 January 2014, 20:30:46
Well done, Mr Emd. You'll save a lot of money from not smoking.

Enough to buy another Omega. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)

Maybe enough to put the one he has back on the road!  :-\  ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 29 January 2014, 21:20:12
Well done, Mr Emd. You'll save a lot of money from not smoking.

Enough to buy another Omega. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)

Maybe enough to put the one he has back on the road!  :-\  ;D

No chance  :P Its in storage like Mr Opti's . The exhaust is beginning to look rusty now  :'(
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 February 2014, 09:03:02
Week 5 , no fags still BUT passing through a cloud of smoke from smoker's smells good  ??? Obviously im not anti smoking , still feel i could have one but resisting is easy . Gone on to lower strength patch now and using less of the inhalator  :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: RossPhim on 13 February 2014, 09:33:32
Week 5 , no fags still BUT passing through a cloud of smoke from smoker's smells good  ??? Obviously im not anti smoking , still feel i could have one but resisting is easy . Gone on to lower strength patch now and using less of the inhalator  :y
Well done Sir.
You should hopefully, be through the worst.
I stopped nearly 9 years ago, but still think under the wrong circumstances, it would be far too easy to start again!
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: biggriffin on 13 February 2014, 10:17:25
Remember you are a smoker who doesn't want to smoke :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 13 February 2014, 14:11:09
The fagometer you blow into at the chemist is down to 2  :) I asked what was the highest she had seen , it was 58  :o . That reading was from a 60 a day smoker  :(
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 February 2014, 17:03:42
Well done Mr Emd, that's impressive as I sure it's been tough at times!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 16 March 2014, 16:25:50
2 months and still not smoking  :) On the lower dose patch now , went through a rough time and nearly cracked but persisted with it  :y It helps when you have a sexy nursie to see every 2 weeks  :P ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 March 2014, 16:28:13
God man. :y
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 16 March 2014, 16:29:21
God man. :y

Thanks  :y On the down side im now 28 stone  ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Stemo on 16 March 2014, 16:40:05
God man. :y
It's not enough to elevate him to that position surely?

Well done, EMD, keep it up :y Five years for me now.
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 16 March 2014, 16:41:57
God man. :y
It's not enough to elevate him to that position surely?

Well done, EMD, keep it up :y Five years for me now.

Nice one  :y Saved a fortune , £7-8 a pack of fags now  :o
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: cleggy on 16 March 2014, 17:35:30
You've done it :y 7 years for me ;) in fact we had friends for lunch who wanted to go outside for a smoke. I put an ashtray on the table and said "Our guests don't have to feel like pariahs" it doesn't bother me that a friend smokes. I am glad I gave up, 40 years too late but at least my lungs might be back to pink. ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 16 March 2014, 18:18:18
You've done it :y 7 years for me ;) in fact we had friends for lunch who wanted to go outside for a smoke. I put an ashtray on the table and said "Our guests don't have to feel like pariahs" it doesn't bother me that a friend smokes. I am glad I gave up, 40 years too late but at least my lungs might be back to pink. ;D

Im the same , i dont mind when people smoke around me outside but ive never smoked in the house anyway so wont allow that . Quite like a wiff of the smoke sometimes but im glad ive quit . Nursie gave me the lung blowy thing and its gone down to 1 , originally it was 8  :)
Sense of smell and taste is so much better now ... pity i cant eat a tub of ice cream to try the taste buds  >:( diabetic  :( still i stubbed the stubbs  :D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 March 2014, 20:44:42
Go on just try one to really see if you have packed I or not  ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: omega3000 on 17 March 2014, 16:11:30
Go on just try one to really see if you have packed I or not  ;D

Im almost certain i'd be sick  ;D
Title: Re: No fags 2nd day
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 March 2014, 17:14:19
Go on just try one to really see if you have packed I or not  ;D

Im almost certain i'd be sick  ;D


Ooooohhh  nooooo you won't  ;D