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General Discussion Area / Re: Newsnight
« on: 06 November 2012, 19:55:27 »
It is called satire and if you'd followed my posts regarding saville you will realise i am certainly not one of his apologists,which suprisingly there are still some,even on here.

On that subject i see on the news tonight that saville was 'interviewed' in connection with the ripper murders,well we all know now they were mates,and at least one of the victims was found a bit too close for comfort.

As far as 'names' are concerned you dont have to google much to find out who's in the frame for the North Wales abuse.

I suggest that all those who want to see justice for the victims and get these vile perpetrators put away get behind Tom Watson who seems to be the only one in parliament making an effort.

And before you get excited about Camerons latest 'play to the gallery' 'inquiry' just remember that it was his mate hague who overlooked the 'inquiry' into the 'inquiry' in 1996 and was 4 years before it came up with didly squat.So now we have an 'inquiry' into the 'inquiry' into the last 'inquiry'.So another nice little earner for a well off retired judge who will no doubt be from the same stable.

So pretty much anyone who can remember anything will be dead or hiding behind Theresa Mays 'shut up the cops' statement,apart from the victims who were mostly young boys at the time and will struggle on their own to have 'names' of these hooded monsters.

Dragging in a convicted peado a sick old man and a couple of dead dodgy looking blokes aint gonna wash this time as far as i'm concerned.

Good old government ploy to announce an inquiry to shut people up,some people are still gullible enough to believe it,scotland yard are 18 months and quite a few £million into the mccann debacle.Cameron will be on the after dinner circuit before the next whitewash comes out in print. 








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General Discussion Area / Re: Newsnight
« on: 06 November 2012, 15:07:02 »
Following allegations that a leading Tory from the Thatcher era is a paedophile, a leading paedophile from the Thatcher era has issued a statement denying allegations he has ever been a Tory.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Usual suspects
« on: 30 October 2012, 21:29:00 »
There were so many who had their suspicions but said nothing at the time,i remember when i was a teenage kid maybe 13/14 years old in the playing fields at school 'Debating' such things as you do (aka The Inbetweeners) we pretty much had all our old teachers down as pervs though with hindsight i am sure they were all decent individuals,except maybe our RI teacher who none of us wanted to be left alone with.I remember we all watched jim'll fix it and had him down as a perv.

This chap certainly wasn't fooled.The date of this recording is 1987 . (Warning.Lots of rude words NSFW and all that)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4mK2glaR9A

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General Discussion Area / Re: Usual suspects
« on: 29 October 2012, 11:33:15 »
Not sure what you'd do if you saw some dirty old man doing this to your daughter at the next family get together ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxy1Lyw7U20

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General Discussion Area / Re: Did ya ken John Peel?
« on: 12 October 2012, 23:22:04 »
Rumours have it that jeremy beedle had a small hand in it.

And that 'soap star' i say that 'soap star'

But both of them are dead as well

There's a good one for the conspiracists though if your looking for an 'Alive' soap star there is one who has a famous daughter married to an ex pm allegedly all in the Bilderberger as saville was alleged to be !

Going to be lots of names banded around now,most of which may have nothing to do with it,not with this case anyway.

Good picture of frank bruno sucking up to the  yorkshire ripper in Broadmoor you can google if you want during the days when jimmy had the keys to all the wards there apparently.




 

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General Discussion Area / Re: Jimmy Saville...right or wrong?
« on: 11 October 2012, 13:10:16 »
The weight of evidence against saville is now overwhelming....

That's for a court of law to decide, though, IMHO, not the gutter press. ;)

Indeed it is but it will be difficult now getting saville into court,and to be fair its a little more than the gutter press as both the BBC and ITV are regularly running these new accusations as well as pretty much any radio station you wish to tune into.
Innocent till proven guilty is going to be difficult to apply here,though that can be done in 'abstentia'.Witness statements are often used to prove guilt and we are getting those by the bucket load now. 

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General Discussion Area / Re: Jimmy Saville...right or wrong?
« on: 11 October 2012, 11:26:00 »
The weight of evidence against saville is now overwhelming,it is not just one isolated case.These people coming forward have nothing to gain now but justice,none as far as i have seen have asked for money for their 'stories'.The dam has well and truly burst.
If one person had come forward a few years ago when he was alive they wouldnt have stood a chance against his lawyers.
If there is ever any doubt the child always comes first.

saville was one sick barst*d who is now accused of abusing a brain damaged child iin her hospital bed.I will wager there is even worse to come ,if that is possible,he needs to rot in hell.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Jimmy Saville...right or wrong?
« on: 10 October 2012, 10:14:59 »
30 years ago or more, the world was a totally different place.
If a child walked into a police station and told the officer behind the desk that her father had touched her up, she would probably have not been believed.

If a bloke gave a woman a slap, many would say that she had probably done something to piss the bloke off and she deserved it.

If a bloke wanted a shag and his wife was not in the mood so he forced himself on her and she cried rape, she would not be believed.

I have been told (as I said earlier) about savilles conections to some seriously nasty barstewards in the Leeds area.

The way the Met has discribed him imho is 100% right.
The man was a preditory bully, sexual devient and very probably a nonce who used his charm, fame, wealth, influence and the "look the other way / old boys network / funny handshake brigade" to satisfy his lust for power over not just women but also those who he worked and lived with.

The people who are now coming out of the woodwork are doing so because someone is now willing to listen to them, nothing more  ;)

I'm glad the c**t is dead, the world is a better place without people like him.

Couldn't agree more.Why did these kids not come forward before ? That is definitely no defence. Why do they come forward now ? Well at the last count there are apparently 120 and i am sure it will be many hundreds if not thousands if they all came forward.You have to remember these were young kids being groomed and no doubt as they grew up felt the shame of it all and kept quiet to protect their new lives and relationships.His own family must have been aware of some of this and have lndeed alluded to this in the past.There are almost certain to be others involved who are still alive. 

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General Discussion Area / Re: Jimmy Saville...right or wrong?
« on: 09 October 2012, 22:23:40 »
Met police now say saville was a predatory sex offender spanning 40 years (only 40 surely that will be revised in due course).Hopefully this will be the start of the process to strip him of his 'honours' and get some form of justice for his victims and expose all the others complicit in this cover up and responsible for forcing themselves on vulnerable children.Be interesting to see just how long the Vatican will remain silent and if they are honest enough to strip him of his Papal knighthood ?


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They should also jail parents who dont look after their kids properly,like leaving them home alone so they can go down the pub with their mates.
Plenty of commedians make so called tasteless jokes,frankie boyle did the other day and he's not been banged up.
Locking up some immature senseless kid for stupid remarks is just well stupid.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Jimmy Saville...right or wrong?
« on: 08 October 2012, 23:24:57 »
Seems there's a bit of a pattern developing with these 'amnesiacs' who hide behind their lawyers and injunctions until their memories are suitably jogged.
Freddie Stars now had to make a U turn,good old ITV and their archives.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Jimmy Saville...right or wrong?
« on: 07 October 2012, 21:43:20 »
The Louis Thoroux interview pretty much nailed savilles mindset.Anyone who thinks its ok to have indecent pictures of kids on your computer is a wrongun,the alarm bells couldnt ring any louder.

Talking of the 'establishment' when a leader of one of the main Political parties 'endorses' smacking little boys bare bottoms then you have to wonder.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Jimmy Saville...right or wrong?
« on: 07 October 2012, 18:47:43 »
There was always a bit of 'smoke' following jimmy saville and these accusations.Its now turning into a forest fire.
Jimmy saville lying about his presence (or absence of it) at the Jersey childrens home Haut de la Garenne didnt help his credibility.Neither did it help  to support the actions of gary glitter a convicted peadophile.

Maybe the 'witness's' were too scared to come forward at the time.

Being dead now does not mean he is immune to justice nor those who may have protected him,allegedly.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Posting to Russia?
« on: 05 October 2012, 23:19:21 »
I had to post a big package to Germany yesterday from fleebay.It Weighed in at 11kg and cost me £64 squid by parcelforce (global priority) .Just go to your local post office and they will tell you if you know the weight.
You can shop around on t'internet and go to all sorts and get better prices but i took the easy option.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Abu Hamza - still not gone
« on: 05 October 2012, 23:07:27 »
He can sling his hook now and a shame he can't take his thieving scumbag family with him.........

Anyway the Americans aint all that bad they are going to give him one of those little blow up ponds to play with and a few floating ducks like they have at the fairground every time he wins a prize they give him a bit of toilet paper.But they did say they will confiscate his hooks ......

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