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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #285 on: 21 February 2013, 17:52:40 »

I was gonna ahem block it off anyway. Maybe now is a good time
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #286 on: 21 February 2013, 19:15:57 »

Go for it!!! I mean it looks like you did the last one using version 1!!! written for use on ZX spectrums. OOOh how I loved those red/blue crazy lines  ::) ::)

I'm hoping Kevin will get the hint as he wrote the current one :-X ::) ;D

.. and I've not got an ECU with any later software to use as a reference.  :P
Easily resolved, I need to redo mine after changing nozzles ;D
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #287 on: 21 February 2013, 21:09:09 »

Go for it!!! I mean it looks like you did the last one using version 1!!! written for use on ZX spectrums. OOOh how I loved those red/blue crazy lines  ::) ::)

I'm hoping Kevin will get the hint as he wrote the current one :-X ::) ;D

.. and I've not got an ECU with any later software to use as a reference.  :P
Easily resolved, I need to redo mine after changing nozzles ;D

And I'm not sure I'll see you before Mayday :-\ :-\

Although Johnnycboy was making noises about another Essex meet soon ::)
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #288 on: 21 February 2013, 21:13:35 »

how does this auto adaptation work then?
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #289 on: 21 February 2013, 21:23:10 »

You tick a box and stuff happens  ::) ::) I'm sure one of the guru's has a better answer. Sorry  :-[ :-[
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #290 on: 21 February 2013, 21:34:34 »

how does this auto adaptation work then?

It was added for lazy fitters ;)

Basically the 300 Plus and Premium collect full, 3D fuel maps which take quite a while to collect. This automatically switches to petrol when a certain (required) set of parameters are met and collects the map point. It also adjusts the fuelling over time to keep it within spec, although the ISA2 setting doesn't work as well as connecting the K Line on a full CANBus setup :y
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #291 on: 21 February 2013, 22:54:01 »

New software also has a warm start on gas. As opposed to waiting the designated minimum time after a warm start. :y
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #292 on: 22 February 2013, 19:27:52 »

how does this auto adaptation work then?

It was added for lazy fitters ;)

Basically the 300 Plus and Premium collect full, 3D fuel maps which take quite a while to collect. This automatically switches to petrol when a certain (required) set of parameters are met and collects the map point. It also adjusts the fuelling over time to keep it within spec, although the ISA2 setting doesn't work as well as connecting the K Line on a full CANBus setup :y

Is the k bus not a completely seperate, slower and older data bus, from the can bus, which is faster and modern. They would surely be on seperate diagnostic pins on the odb socket.
Sorry to be a smarta**  ::)
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #293 on: 22 February 2013, 19:46:23 »

how does this auto adaptation work then?

It was added for lazy fitters ;)

Basically the 300 Plus and Premium collect full, 3D fuel maps which take quite a while to collect. This automatically switches to petrol when a certain (required) set of parameters are met and collects the map point. It also adjusts the fuelling over time to keep it within spec, although the ISA2 setting doesn't work as well as connecting the K Line on a full CANBus setup :y

Is the k bus not a completely seperate, slower and older data bus, from the can bus, which is faster and modern. They would surely be on seperate diagnostic pins on the odb socket.
Sorry to be a smarta**  ::)

You can be a smartarse all you like... It's still called the K Line in an LPG kit whichever pin you have to connect to ;) ;)
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #294 on: 22 February 2013, 19:59:10 »

No wire on my kit went to the OBD socket. Have I missed something?
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #295 on: 22 February 2013, 22:55:22 »

No wire on my kit went to the OBD socket. Have I missed something?

Unless you have the Stag 300 Premium it's not used. The ISA2 or whatever it's called automaps by switching back to petrol and watching the injector duration rather than watching the fuel trims.
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #296 on: 22 February 2013, 23:40:03 »

I've got a Plus so question answered. Cheers Kev.  :y
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #297 on: 23 February 2013, 00:34:46 »

How's it running now?
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #298 on: 23 February 2013, 01:38:12 »

Not had a chance to run it today. Only moved it and it ran on petrol then. Will take it out tomorrow after I've wrapped the EGR. When I finished with it yesterday it was running well. Maybe a little rich at the top end but not enough to hurt the engine. Part throttle response was good as was the idle. It's a shame you can't go in and see how the self mapping is doing. I've filled it so I'll see what MPG it's doing and hopefully that will give me an idea on how its running, however at some point I'm guess I will have to have another go at mapping
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Re: LPG fitting SOuthampton
« Reply #299 on: 23 February 2013, 10:54:18 »

how does this auto adaptation work then?
As LD says, in a nutshell, it looks at parameters of the engine at a given time, if it hasn't a good enough petrol map for those parameters, it will switch to petrol, and gather data, then switch to gas and calibrate that part of the map.

On my Version 6, it "works" but spends a lot of time getting the full map, esp as its a 3d map, so is on petrol a fair amount. Even hundreds of miles later, you can see it popping back to petrol occasionally.
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