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[bored bigyin54]

so lets see where do i start  so acording to some im aretart because i am disabled so should be put down or as some put it im not worth the ground i walk on or to some i need to be pitied so let me put my piont of veiw
  im 52 ive worked and paid my taxes and NI untill 2008 when my world csashed around my ears but try as i might i could not go back to work  ive never claimed aall of the benefits i could only enough to survive so if people think that i dont deserve what i get thats your opinion
The way this thread is going it turning in to a whitch hunt  against certain members of this forum im not saying me because you all have always suported me but i think this is going off the piont of the tread i agree that some people milk the system but until this or any goverment find away to stop the scroungers we are stuck with it
so goodnight and may your god go withyou   ozzycat

i agree with you kevin . i am not disabled because i want to be , i would rather work , but cant so i am stuck . i am just getting fed up with people calling me a scrounger , which i am not . 

[STMO123]

From what I've read, the theme running through this thread is one of sympathy for deserving cases and anger/frustration for those who sponge. Unless I've missed something.....

[bored bigyin54]

From what I've read, the theme running through this thread is one of sympathy for deserving cases and anger/frustration for those who sponge. Unless I've missed something.....

but not from some 

[cleggy]

From what I've read, the theme running through this thread is one of sympathy for deserving cases and anger/frustration for those who sponge. Unless I've missed something.....

but not from some 

And who are you refering to

[Nickbat]

so lets see where do i start  so acording to some im aretart because i am disabled so should be put down or as some put it im not worth the ground i walk on or to some i need to be pitied so let me put my piont of veiw
  im 52 ive worked and paid my taxes and NI untill 2008 when my world csashed around my ears but try as i might i could not go back to work  ive never claimed aall of the benefits i could only enough to survive so if people think that i dont deserve what i get thats your opinion
The way this thread is going it turning in to a whitch hunt  against certain members of this forum im not saying me because you all have always suported me but i think this is going off the piont of the tread i agree that some people milk the system but until this or any goverment find away to stop the scroungers we are stuck with it
so goodnight and may your god go withyou   ozzycat

i agree with you kevin . i am not disabled because i want to be , i would rather work , but cant so i am stuck . i am just getting fed up with people calling me a scrounger , which i am not . 

Since I started this thread (part of me wishes I hadn't!  ), let me say that those – like yourself – who would happily work if they were able, should be amply supported by society.

We need to look at an analogous situation in the world of insurance: due to fraudulent claims, premiums for all have risen. Same with welfare. Due to scroungers and false claimants, there is far less in the pot for deserving cases such as yours. It is a sad fact that we live in a society where those with no moral scruples cash in...to the detriment of those who really need it.     

[albitz]

ozzycat,
You are so wrong with that last post, I have stated all along that those in need deserve a decent standard of living. You have contributed to this so called welfare system and through no fault of your own have found it lacking when you need the support.
I can't see anyone refering to you as a retard, or a scrounger you are deserving of a system that you paid into for a time of need but can't get it because of the professional scroungers faking illness, womb for benefits, immigrants or addiction who should be given a very basic allowance to live on.
You do contribute to society in fact you make a worthy addition to this forum and I for one don't pity you, although I feel sorry for the predicament you find yourself in

Agreed.I thought it was clear that the people who are being criticised are the workshy scroungers who have a sense of entitlement to taxpayers money.

[bored bigyin54]

From what I've read, the theme running through this thread is one of sympathy for deserving cases and anger/frustration for those who sponge. Unless I've missed something.....

but not from some 

And who are you refering to

i am not going to mention any names 

[Jusme]

So many of us disabled 'HAVE' to attend and pass a medical. So why does my blood boil when I watch so many scroungers arriving at the local dole office.. 'by taxi', which they don't even bother these days to have drop them 'round the corner', but right outside the door? And then there's the element attending to get their payout, dripping in gold, branded clothing being shown off to all, the obligatory BMW or Merc parked very close by. "WHY" does no-one ask them to attend a meeting? 'Now then Mr. X. You are 27 years old, have never worked in your life, but drive a BMW, are covered in 'bling' and designer clothing, 'how did you get it'?? I would love a job but no-one will employ me, I am the wrong side of 60, have had 2 strokes, and do not use up too much of others precious oxygen due to my emphysema. I watched a programme on the TV quite some time ago about airport staff employed to watch baggage security monitors, half of them were asleep, some were reading the paper, chatting etc, anything but watching the monitors. I said to the wife, 'now there's a job I could do'. But no. Guess I'm stuck with looking after her full time earning my average 48p per hour.. " DAMN "! I love being a scrounger...
Up until 1992 I owned my own factory, I well remember my accountant complaining that I had paid myself £52,000 that year, I can't remember how much tax the government had taken off me over the previous 10 years, and won't even mention the regular £14,500 quarterly VAT payments I paid to the government, employed as I was as an unpaid tax collector. The bloody government have sctrounged off me ALL my life, I think they owe me a little return...

[omega3000]

So many of us disabled 'HAVE' to attend and pass a medical. So why does my blood boil when I watch so many scroungers arriving at the local dole office.. 'by taxi', which they don't even bother these days to have drop them 'round the corner', but right outside the door? And then there's the element attending to get their payout, dripping in gold, branded clothing being shown off to all, the obligatory BMW or Merc parked very close by. "WHY" does no-one ask them to attend a meeting? 'Now then Mr. X. You are 27 years old, have never worked in your life, but drive a BMW, are covered in 'bling' and designer clothing, 'how did you get it'?? I would love a job but no-one will employ me, I am the wrong side of 60, have had 2 strokes, and do not use up too much of others precious oxygen due to my emphysema. I watched a programme on the TV quite some time ago about airport staff employed to watch baggage security monitors, half of them were asleep, some were reading the paper, chatting etc, anything but watching the monitors. I said to the wife, 'now there's a job I could do'. But no. Guess I'm stuck with looking after her full time earning my average 48p per hour.. " DAMN "! I love being a scrounger...
Up until 1992 I owned my own factory, I well remember my accountant complaining that I had paid myself £52,000 that year, I can't remember how much tax the government had taken off me over the previous 10 years, and won't even mention the regular £14,500 quarterly VAT payments I paid to the government, employed as I was as an unpaid tax collector. The bloody government have sctrounged off me ALL my life, I think they owe me a little return...

 

But i wonder where our paid taxes went while we were working , probably funding a nice little pension now for another MP or even worse a EURO MP 

[bored bigyin54]

So many of us disabled 'HAVE' to attend and pass a medical. So why does my blood boil when I watch so many scroungers arriving at the local dole office.. 'by taxi', which they don't even bother these days to have drop them 'round the corner', but right outside the door? And then there's the element attending to get their payout, dripping in gold, branded clothing being shown off to all, the obligatory BMW or Merc parked very close by. "WHY" does no-one ask them to attend a meeting? 'Now then Mr. X. You are 27 years old, have never worked in your life, but drive a BMW, are covered in 'bling' and designer clothing, 'how did you get it'?? I would love a job but no-one will employ me, I am the wrong side of 60, have had 2 strokes, and do not use up too much of others precious oxygen due to my emphysema. I watched a programme on the TV quite some time ago about airport staff employed to watch baggage security monitors, half of them were asleep, some were reading the paper, chatting etc, anything but watching the monitors. I said to the wife, 'now there's a job I could do'. But no. Guess I'm stuck with looking after her full time earning my average 48p per hour.. " DAMN "! I love being a scrounger...
Up until 1992 I owned my own factory, I well remember my accountant complaining that I had paid myself £52,000 that year, I can't remember how much tax the government had taken off me over the previous 10 years, and won't even mention the regular £14,500 quarterly VAT payments I paid to the government, employed as I was as an unpaid tax collector. The bloody government have sctrounged off me ALL my life, I think they owe me a little return...

 

But i wonder where our paid taxes went while we were working , probably funding a nice little pension now for another MP or even worse a EURO MP 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

A cull of retards Lizzie the only solution 

that is going to far . hitler done that .and nobody liked that

That's new, a German calling all Jews retards 

Think some maybe offended a your comment

i wasn't talking about jews . if you looked at history he killed retards as well and sick and infirm . so before making comments like that look at the history books  and did i mention jews .i think not

Yes indeed. Can't have retards in the master race.

Or women with history degrees

Do you mean me Cleggy?! 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

From what I've read, the theme running through this thread is one of sympathy for deserving cases and anger/frustration for those who sponge. Unless I've missed something.....

Yes Steve, I would settle for that, and how the Coalition are "assessing" existing sick, mentally ill and disabled claimants, apart from those who are desparately seeking work but cannot find it through no fault of their own

[Lizzie_Zoom]

So many of us disabled 'HAVE' to attend and pass a medical. So why does my blood boil when I watch so many scroungers arriving at the local dole office.. 'by taxi', which they don't even bother these days to have drop them 'round the corner', but right outside the door? And then there's the element attending to get their payout, dripping in gold, branded clothing being shown off to all, the obligatory BMW or Merc parked very close by. "WHY" does no-one ask them to attend a meeting? 'Now then Mr. X. You are 27 years old, have never worked in your life, but drive a BMW, are covered in 'bling' and designer clothing, 'how did you get it'?? I would love a job but no-one will employ me, I am the wrong side of 60, have had 2 strokes, and do not use up too much of others precious oxygen due to my emphysema. I watched a programme on the TV quite some time ago about airport staff employed to watch baggage security monitors, half of them were asleep, some were reading the paper, chatting etc, anything but watching the monitors. I said to the wife, 'now there's a job I could do'. But no. Guess I'm stuck with looking after her full time earning my average 48p per hour.. " DAMN "! I love being a scrounger...
Up until 1992 I owned my own factory, I well remember my accountant complaining that I had paid myself £52,000 that year, I can't remember how much tax the government had taken off me over the previous 10 years, and won't even mention the regular £14,500 quarterly VAT payments I paid to the government, employed as I was as an unpaid tax collector. The bloody government have sctrounged off me ALL my life, I think they owe me a little return...

Yes, and interestingly Labour are considering a policy where the benefits are linked to how much you have paid in.  Could that be an answer?

[albitz]

Its just spin to try to head off UKIP.They would never do it (even if the EU allowed it). Labour created a client state which won them three elections and almost a fourth,despite the fact their leader was a certifiable window licker who had just destroyed the economy for several generations.That leopard aint going to change its spots.
They are all making right wing noises at the moment (even the illiberal undemocrats !) since the shock of Eastleigh.They dont mean it though,dont believe a word of it.

[Webby the Bear]

Its just spin to try to head off UKIP.They would never do it (even if the EU allowed it). Labour created a client state which won them three elections and almost a fourth,despite the fact their leader was a certifiable window licker who had just destroyed the economy for several generations.That leopard aint going to change its spots.
They are all making right wing noises at the moment (even the illiberal undemocrats !) since the shock of Eastleigh.They dont mean it though,dont believe a word of it.

Can't believe anyone would ever trust anything Labour said ever again. Ever.