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[Lizzie_Zoom]

Russia appears to be softening and is more willing to listen (accept?) the evidence about Assad forces being responsible for war crimes against his own people.
 
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russian ministry today announced that  they have evidence for the rebels using of gas rockets

Yes, and now, contrary to earlier reports, Putin is again distancing himself from the western powers keen to go on the offensive against Assad.  The group photograph at the St. Petersburg said it all!  Putin was miles away from Obama!

[cem_devecioglu]

Russia appears to be softening and is more willing to listen (accept?) the evidence about Assad forces being responsible for war crimes against his own people.
 
...........

russian ministry today announced that  they have evidence for the rebels using of gas rockets

Yes, and now, contrary to earlier reports, Putin is again distancing himself from the western powers keen to go on the offensive against Assad.  The group photograph at the St. Petersburg said it all!  Putin was miles away from Obama!

  what do you expect Lizzie ? despite all evidences Obama (actually not him-he is the operator)  wants war.. would putin send kisses and flowers

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Russia appears to be softening and is more willing to listen (accept?) the evidence about Assad forces being responsible for war crimes against his own people.
 
...........

russian ministry today announced that  they have evidence for the rebels using of gas rockets

Yes, and now, contrary to earlier reports, Putin is again distancing himself from the western powers keen to go on the offensive against Assad.  The group photograph at the St. Petersburg said it all!  Putin was miles away from Obama!

  what do you expect Lizzie ? despite all evidences Obama (actually not him-he is the operator)  wants war.. would putin send kisses and flowers

Perhaps not Cem

However, we are talking international politics, and Russia has got more at stake in the West than ever before. Politics could therefore make his hand swing towards some form of operation with other UN forces to at least control both sides in Syria, as a peace keeping operation, without actually using his military forces.  Politics, politics - who knows what could happen next?

Remember no one expected Stalin to join forces with Nazi Germany over the Polish question.But he did!

[Rods2]

They got on just fine at the G20 meeting as the picture below shows.












































Obuma giving Putin a death stare. 

As Churchill told us it is better to jaw, jaw than war, war.

Where Russia has a strategic interest in Syria with their only base in the Med, then Putin will back Assad come what may. I think it is unfortunate that Russia did not exert more pressure from the beginning on Assad to enact political reforms and give the population more freedom, it Assad had done so he may have avoided the civil war. 

[05omegav6]

But what do you expect from someone who created a more important job for himself when his term in office expired

Suprised Ton E didn't try that one himself

[Kevin Wood]

Suprised Ton E didn't try that one himself

He did. He got greedy and decided, rather than another national role, he'd bring peace to the middle east. It didn't work and now everybody has forgotten him.

[Nickbat]

Suprised Ton E didn't try that one himself

He did. He got greedy and decided, rather than another national role, he'd bring peace to the middle east. It didn't work and now everybody has forgotten him.

Hmm, there are a lot more people "at peace" since he took over the post. 

[Nickbat]

"High-Level U.S. Intelligence Officers: Syrian Government Didn’t Launch Chemical Weapons"

Some sobering reading here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-07/high-level-us-intelligence-officers-syrian-government-didn%E2%80%99t-launch-chemical-

 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

They got on just fine at the G20 meeting as the picture below shows.




Obuma giving Putin a death stare. 

As Churchill told us it is better to jaw, jaw than war, war.

Yep, and how right he was!

The trouble is that man has the inherent nature to go to war when the other side takes no notice.

[cem_devecioglu]

Russia appears to be softening and is more willing to listen (accept?) the evidence about Assad forces being responsible for war crimes against his own people.
 
...........

russian ministry today announced that  they have evidence for the rebels using of gas rockets

Yes, and now, contrary to earlier reports, Putin is again distancing himself from the western powers keen to go on the offensive against Assad.  The group photograph at the St. Petersburg said it all!  Putin was miles away from Obama!

  what do you expect Lizzie ? despite all evidences Obama (actually not him-he is the operator)  wants war.. would putin send kisses and flowers

Perhaps not Cem

However, we are talking international politics, and Russia has got more at stake in the West than ever before. Politics could therefore make his hand swing towards some form of operation with other UN forces to at least control both sides in Syria, as a peace keeping operation, without actually using his military forces.  Politics, politics - who knows what could happen next?

Remember no one expected Stalin to join forces with Nazi Germany over the Polish question.But he did!

for now we can easily say that US dont want peace, they want oil and ready to pay whatever the price is..
 
Syria is a minor portion of middle east plans and and when its complete , they will step onto the next phase..
 

[cem_devecioglu]

1.Where Russia has a strategic interest in Syria with their only base in the Med, then Putin will back Assad come what may.
 
I think 2. it is unfortunate that Russia did not exert more pressure from the beginning on Assad to enact political reforms and give the population more freedom, it Assad had done so he may have avoided the civil war. 

1.correct and agreed.. its important for them.. and they also see the bigger plan so want to stop it.. question is how much risk Russians will take..
 
2.most middle east countries are in similiar state Rods.. less or more.. however, Syria was not that bad before.. my job friends visited the country and didnt encounter any major freedom problem.. however , as usual freedom is just a marketing word for declaring war.. and I must remind if you pay the price you can start a civil war in any country.. if you have enough deep pockets.. but syria anyway was not a developed country had economical problems, different religions different sects so it was easy to provoke..  and if you pay talibans, it wont cost much   (even we could pay   and we did pay )

[05omegav6]

Freedom is all a matter of perspective

A strict Islamic way of doing things might look ok from Turkey, yet worryingly restrictive and controlling from here.

Equally, from Damascus, London and New York must look like the twin cities of Soddom and Gommorah

To misquote Morse from Cherubim and Seraphim, 'We strive for freedom, yet spend our lives bound in property chains'

[cem_devecioglu]

"High-Level U.S. Intelligence Officers: Syrian Government Didn’t Launch Chemical Weapons"

Some sobering reading here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-07/high-level-us-intelligence-officers-syrian-government-didn%E2%80%99t-launch-chemical-

 

I'm afraid this (Nickbats) critical post will remain unseen and left in shadow

[Nickbat]

"High-Level U.S. Intelligence Officers: Syrian Government Didn’t Launch Chemical Weapons"

Some sobering reading here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-07/high-level-us-intelligence-officers-syrian-government-didn%E2%80%99t-launch-chemical-

 

I'm afraid this (Nickbats) critical post will remain unseen and left in shadow

I hope not Cem. Here is an embedded link in the ZeroHedge story. Incredible if true.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/12-u-s-intelligence-officials-tell-obama-it-wasnt-assad.html 

[cem_devecioglu]

"High-Level U.S. Intelligence Officers: Syrian Government Didn’t Launch Chemical Weapons"

Some sobering reading here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-07/high-level-us-intelligence-officers-syrian-government-didn%E2%80%99t-launch-chemical-

 

I'm afraid this (Nickbats) critical post will remain unseen and left in shadow

I hope not Cem. Here is an embedded link in the ZeroHedge story. Incredible if true.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/12-u-s-intelligence-officials-tell-obama-it-wasnt-assad.html 

I dont see any reason for it to be fake.. and I hope/wish there is no finger from my country