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[Sir Tigger KC]

As I've said before, don't bother with the GP.

Straight to A+E

That's all fine a dandy Chris if you live in a large town or city.  Our closest A&E is 25 miles away.... 

[chrisgixer]

As I've said before, don't bother with the GP.

Straight to A+E

That's all fine a dandy Chris if you live in a large town or city.  Our closest A&E is 25 miles away.... 

Well that's just poor planning on your part. Silly.

[Sir Tigger KC]

As I've said before, don't bother with the GP.

Straight to A+E

That's all fine a dandy Chris if you live in a large town or city.  Our closest A&E is 25 miles away.... 

Well that's just poor planning on your part. Silly.

Did I mention I live in a cave?   

[chrisgixer]

As I've said before, don't bother with the GP.

Straight to A+E

That's all fine a dandy Chris if you live in a large town or city.  Our closest A&E is 25 miles away.... 

Well that's just poor planning on your part. Silly.

Did I mention I live in a cave?   

Yes, but you don't really though. Do you!

[Sir Tigger KC]

No but if I did, it would still be to far to pop into A&E!! 

[Vamps]

Ime rural or country GP's better than town ones, never had a problem with our GP, guaranteed and emergency appointment that day if needed for me or a child, given what I have been through I have no complaints about local Health Centre..........

[chrisgixer]

No but if I did, it would still be to far to pop into A&E!! 

Well there's always the other option

[TheBoy]

My 3 year old grandson fell at pre school. They phoned my daughter to pick him up advising of bloody nose and to get him checked out. She doesn't think it is broken but not sure so phones doctors. At 10.30am this morning doctor's reception advises " we have no emergency appointments til 4pm". Yes but I just want you to take a quick look. No!!

So she was in dilemma and has ended up going to A&E due to pathetic service from GP.

Now she is sat  in a & e with a 3 year old.

If a child requires urgent treatment you just go to your GP and demand that they are seen, which is the child's right, and your right.  You stay in the reception area until you see the doctor, and if met by an "over bearing, self important" receptionist who argues that there are no appointments, you continue to demand that you see a doctor, and even inquire if other patients have any objections to your young child being seen before them! 

Having been in this position before on a number of occasions , I know this works and as necessary you can also add when talking to the receptionist that the NHS expects young children to be seen immediately in such circumstances and if the child suffers any relapse you will hold them personally, and legally, responsible. 

Once a doctor, instead of the mere opinionated receptionist gets to hear of your protestations, you WILL be seen without further delay!

This may all cause unpleasantness at the time, but when it comes down to the medical safety of a young child, anything goes!

Yes, this case highlights how the system with GP's and A&E's is going wrong, but if we the taxpayers, who pay the NHS staff their wages and have a right to be treated appropriately, especially when it comes to young children, put our foot down then the situation will eventually change.  Do not put up with a shoddy service.

Downside of that is some chav mother demands that they see little Mercedes and deal with her sniffle.

[TheBoy]

Anyway, the solution is to entirely close down the NHS.

OK, so not enough to stop our overspead each year, but the NHS isn't fixable, never will be...

[Steve B]

The problem is,There are too many people in this country,With a large number of non english needing medical help.

Go and have a tour around leicester royal infirmary.It is busting at the seems,And you will see that it is full of asians.

[chrisgixer]

Anyway, the solution is to entirely close down the NHS.

OK, so not enough to stop our overspead each year, but the NHS isn't fixable, never will be...

Rubbish! Utter utter Rubbish!
Drafted in egotistical idiots at management level with no "shop floor" experience will ALWAYS destroy front line moral. Promote from the " shop floor" however ...


Also, I guarantee, if you engage the nhs at a hardcore level which I hope and pray you will never have to do, you will never make such a ridiculous statement ever again.

[TheBoy]

Rubbish! Utter utter Rubbish!
Drafted in egotistical idiots at management level with no "shop floor" experience will ALWAYS destroy front line moral. Promote from the " shop floor" however ...

Its got too out of control to fix. If it must be fixed, wipe the slate of what we have now, and rebuild it from scratch. What we have now is too broken.

Also, remember, its not just the personnel and procedures thats bringing it down, its the people who (mis)use it.

Also, I guarantee, if you engage the nhs at a hardcore level which I hope and pray you will never have to do, you will never make such a ridiculous statement ever again.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.  I managed to avoid the NHS from about 10yrs old to about 30yrs old, when a hole in my foot caused by a rusty nail went a bit manky. My dealings then didn't make me think any more of them. And my recent dealings with them have reenforced that view, of slow, inefficient, incompitent.


So, based on my experiences of an NHS user, and base on my dealings with them at a professional level, I'll stand by my original statement, as I have every other time I've said it.

[chrisgixer]

Re building is very differant to closing.

Re building a can agree with.