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[minifreek]

Following a bit of track time I had in my Omega yesterday, my brakes obviously got hot and there was fade - a lot of it TBH

Is there a bolt o brake upgrade that can be readily got hold of...?

I will be upgrading the pads for EBC yellowstuff FR at some point in the near future but was wondering if something like Monaro brakes are a straight bolt on swap or if there is any other engineering required, like brake carriers need machining so they fit the Omega struts... 

TIA 

[the alarming man]

tbh omega brakes where always very good but you are driving a executive car which In theory was never designed to be hacked around any track 

[minifreek]

I understand that, but am asking if there is a bolt on upgrade available, not whether it will be any good on a track...

For example my car before the Omega was a Vectra B, with that there was a straight forward bolt on upgrade from the 2.6 Vectra and they was very good with Mintex pads...

Maybe the Monaro brake smight be a straight forward swap, as Im led to believe the Omega has the same running gear...?

[106pete]

You want to look at this monaro upgrade, iirc it's a bolt on set up but not that easy to find the calipers. http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1269020773

I copied someone else and used cayeman 6 pot calipers and Audi A8 disc. Safe to say I haven't had any brake fade yet but it does require custom brackets.

[biggriffin]

Get in touch with, serek.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Upgrades are possible - especially on a track car. The maths is very complex though, with regards to brake bias front-rear and ABS thresholds.

I speak as someone who is always interested in making things better, faster and stronger, not a trained expert...

[05omegav6]

2004 5.7 Monaro calipers are a bolt on upgrade requiring only the calipers and pads... Discs being the same thickness and diameter...

2005/6/7 Monaro Vxr calipers are also bolt on but require modified Mercedes W163 Ml discs. I have a this set up on my car and am very happy with it.

Monaro AP calipers will bolt straight on but require custom mounting bells for the (Expensive) two piece discs...

 

[minifreek]

Thanks for all the brilliant answers

I will keep a lookout for the Monaro brakes, but what size are the rotors...? I will be upgrading the rotors too from the 296mm standard rotors... I presume the rear brakes will be OK as I upgraded them to the vented rears a couple of months ago, possibly just need to upgrade the pads to Mintex1144's as I just got a text off a mate and he said the Yellowstuff pads aren't as good as they are meant to be and he is running Mintex 1144's on his track car...

[106pete]

Yeah I was goin to comment on the yellow stuff pads, personally I think all the stuff pads are crap. If you want a good friendly pad either the ferodo ds2500 or mintex 1144.

As for brake disc, I have always tracked with stock blank disc. There is no real benefit from performance disc on the road or general track day. From what I read the slotted disc are designed for clearing water off the face and the drilled holes are for gasses releasing from the pad built up by the heat but as a side effect weaken the disc and crack. If you want to replace discs every track day then go for it.

[05omegav6]

Currently using 330x32mm plain vented Mintex discs with EBC Ultimax pads...

Perform really well but discs are scored after 3k and am on my second set of pads... Dusty as fook but fade free... My commute is 23 miles each way, mostly nsl dual carriageway but with 23 roundabouts and I am not exactly gentle with it, but the brakes will still pull it up in short order from the limit without fading at the end of the trip

[minifreek]

I was going to ask about the Ultimax pads too... cheers Al...

I have new discs on the front which are vented and not drilled or grooved...

I did have Ferodo dustless pads on my Astra F and they performed very well indeed. I only fitted them as that car suffered badly from brake fade (it was only a 1.4 8V) but I drove it quite hard TBH especially on the back roads round here LOL

[GmasterT]

I'm looking into lotus carlton discs and subaru calipers

[Kevin Wood]

Mintex 1144s are certainly great on my Westfield. Might need something more robust on a heavier car, though. They are, however, not ECE 90 approved, so I don't believe that makes them strictly legal for road use on an Omega.

I interpret the rules to mean that they are legal on my kit car, as it's not an EU type approved vehicle.

They are marked "Not for road use". Beware, as this marking is susceptible to brake cleaner.

[serek]

have 360mm discs with 6 pot brembo for about year, tested at cadwell park early this year work as should.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

I run Lucas front sliding front calipers, with 296mm vented front discs