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[TheBoy]

Just on the news: survivors can get £500 in cash straight away, and £5000 paid into their bank accounts on Monday. This money is not for accommodation costs or fuel costs etc.
Imagine going to sign on at the benefit office on Tuesday. Hello, Mr Smith, we understand you've had a bit of a windfall. Fill in this form, there's a good chap.

Would the government have given me £550 if I'd lost the house?  No bloody chance 

That's because you've proved you can't wreck the entire property. Ensure that you have an old fridge in the garage for a better result next time

I did, and it might have been the ignition source

[TheBoy]

LZ, why is it one rule for the spongers in life, and another for those who manage to get by without handouts.

And where is that £5500 x 80-90 flats going to come from?  Any finance specialist will make sure it doesn't come from the contractor.  So, its going to come from the taxes I pay, which will mean that authority will have even less money. And, I repeat, why wouldn't I have been entitled to it? Because I paid for some insurance? Or because I'm not in Manchester/London, so the media don't give a shit?


Maybe I should have rioted around the local council building 

[STEMO]

LZ, why is it one rule for the spongers in life, and another for those who manage to get by without handouts.

And where is that £5500 x 80-90 flats going to come from?  Any finance specialist will make sure it doesn't come from the contractor.  So, its going to come from the taxes I pay, which will mean that authority will have even less money. And, I repeat, why wouldn't I have been entitled to it? Because I paid for some insurance? Or because I'm not in Manchester/London, so the media don't give a shit?



Maybe I should have rioted around the local council building 

Oh dear, I feel I may upset you again. It's £5500 per person, not per flat 

[TheBoy]

LZ, why is it one rule for the spongers in life, and another for those who manage to get by without handouts.

And where is that £5500 x 80-90 flats going to come from?  Any finance specialist will make sure it doesn't come from the contractor.  So, its going to come from the taxes I pay, which will mean that authority will have even less money. And, I repeat, why wouldn't I have been entitled to it? Because I paid for some insurance? Or because I'm not in Manchester/London, so the media don't give a shit?



Maybe I should have rioted around the local council building 

Oh dear, I feel I may upset you again. It's £5500 per person, not per flat 

Surely to are taking the f'ing piss


So where's my £11k?

[STEMO]

LZ, why is it one rule for the spongers in life, and another for those who manage to get by without handouts.

And where is that £5500 x 80-90 flats going to come from?  Any finance specialist will make sure it doesn't come from the contractor.  So, its going to come from the taxes I pay, which will mean that authority will have even less money. And, I repeat, why wouldn't I have been entitled to it? Because I paid for some insurance? Or because I'm not in Manchester/London, so the media don't give a shit?



Maybe I should have rioted around the local council building 

Oh dear, I feel I may upset you again. It's £5500 per person, not per flat 

Surely to are taking the f'ing piss


So where's my £11k?

I shall check my sources, but I hope think I'm right. 

[STEMO]

Hmmmm...it says 'families' will receive the money, but that's no good. A family of five will need more than a family of two. I feel a demonstration coming on. 
But no matter, Mother Theresa says there's more, if they need it. 

[biggriffin]

O dear. Vote TB  .

So for every person who was a resident , they get £5000, as an initial payment there's more to come, so Mr and Mrs and 5 kids will get a nice £35k, then there's more, So Mr+Mrs TB are entitled to an initial payment of £10k then back dated plus inflation.

So the government have now set a precedent, anybody who is made homeless by fire, will be entitled to it, so no more house insurance required.

[Doctor Gollum]

Hmmmm...it says 'families' will receive the money, but that's no good. A family of five will need more than a family of two. I feel a demonstration coming on. 
But no matter, Mother Theresa says there's more, if they need it. 

Would a vigil help?

[Nick W]

Hmmmm...it says 'families' will receive the money, but that's no good. A family of five will need more than a family of two. I feel a demonstration coming on. 
But no matter, Mother Theresa says there's more, if they need it. 

Would a vigil help?

Always. It's such a practical solution to all of the world's problems.

[Rods2]

Just to cheer TB up, by 2020, everybody in employment in the UK that pays tax will be paying £1000+pa in the form of £13bn pa to keep dictators in power, with the lifestyle they expect with foreign aid and £17bn pa to give the tree huggers a rosy glow where it will subsidise useless windmills etc. which will save the planet, apparently.

[jonathanh]

Just on the news: survivors can get £500 in cash straight away, and £5000 paid into their bank accounts on Monday. This money is not for accommodation costs or fuel costs etc.
Imagine going to sign on at the benefit office on Tuesday. Hello, Mr Smith, we understand you've had a bit of a windfall. Fill in this form, there's a good chap.

Would the government have given me £550 if I'd lost the house?  No bloody chance     

OK TB, swap places with one of those tenants who have lost everything, had their families put at risk, even losing a member or two. Is £5,000 a lot of money then?

The contents of my flat alone I insure for up to £50K, as £5,000 would only just about cover the cost of furnishing and re-equipping the front room 

I feel no anger about what these poor sods get, who were failed miserably by the people who were responsible for the refurbishment, and only feel very sad that they have had to go through such an ordeal.   Let the government pay them the money, then reclaim it back from the contractors as they are found guilty of gross negligence and manslaughter.

would you say that if it were found that the council instructed the contractor to use that cladding or that the council in their duty to enforce building control, failed to enforce?  it is easy to blame the contractor but the council have the statutory building control duty.  what if the contractor proposed those materials and the council agreed as their customer?

my hunch is that a proportion of blame rests with the council - just not sure home much.

[STEMO]

It's pointless to speculate, it will all come out in the wash.

[Rods2]

Just on the news: survivors can get £500 in cash straight away, and £5000 paid into their bank accounts on Monday. This money is not for accommodation costs or fuel costs etc.
Imagine going to sign on at the benefit office on Tuesday. Hello, Mr Smith, we understand you've had a bit of a windfall. Fill in this form, there's a good chap.

Would the government have given me £550 if I'd lost the house?  No bloody chance     

OK TB, swap places with one of those tenants who have lost everything, had their families put at risk, even losing a member or two. Is £5,000 a lot of money then?

The contents of my flat alone I insure for up to £50K, as £5,000 would only just about cover the cost of furnishing and re-equipping the front room 

I feel no anger about what these poor sods get, who were failed miserably by the people who were responsible for the refurbishment, and only feel very sad that they have had to go through such an ordeal.   Let the government pay them the money, then reclaim it back from the contractors as they are found guilty of gross negligence and manslaughter.

would you say that if it were found that the council instructed the contractor to use that cladding or that the council in their duty to enforce building control, failed to enforce?  it is easy to blame the contractor but the council have the statutory building control duty.  what if the contractor proposed those materials and the council agreed as their customer?

my hunch is that a proportion of blame rests with the council - just not sure home much.

I suspect that there will be a lot of buck passing, back covering and memory loss between the contractors, council, Government etc., etc., until they all realise the common denominator is they all used the same tea lady and she will carry the can.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The new Labour MP for Kensington, in her previous job as a councillor, was on the housing scrutiny committee which oversaw the refurb of the flats.
You can bet your arse she wont carry the can for anything. 

[Doctor Gollum]

The new Labour MP for Kensington, in her previous job as a councillor, was on the housing scrutiny committee which oversaw the refurb of the flats.
You can bet your arse she wont carry the can for anything. 

Can't beat a good conspiracy...