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[Doctor Gollum]

Sadly not... Just changed jobs this week, so 9-4 Still there, just not this weekend... 

There is a nice, shiny new pub NT landside with a gin theme

Links to follow

[Gaffers]

Sadly not... Just changed jobs this week, so 9-4 Still there, just not this weekend... 

There is a nice, shiny new pub NT landside with a gin theme

Links to follow

Gin.  Good shout

[STEMO]

Pair of poofs.........

[Doctor Gollum]

Mostly petrol, but that's a numbers game...

Some light reading... I am struggling to find the references that I saw last night re worn/loose engine mounts stressing the engine loom causing sensor problems... I had a rummage after your initial post...

Anyways, some light reading for you...

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2090234

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=217&t=1413688

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-technical-10/833470-legacy-diesel-hot-weather-stalling.html

http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25264

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/sticky-starter-cold-dealer-replacing-engine-mountsi-259019.html

http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4670579&postcount=1

http://www.uklegacy.com/forums/index.php/topic/118640-how-is-your-boxer-diesel-reliability/

[Doctor Gollum]

Found it... finally...

http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f160/diesel-engine-stall-problem-99253/ replies 9-11 in particular...

Unless the crank is fractured, which sadly seems common. Slack in dmf/clutch slip would allow the wheels to turn in a high gear and the car move a couple of feet before all the slop reached the engine.

One of the last three links on previous post deals with cleaning/greasing the starter... try that first and if no joy, try and turn the engine over from the crank pulley in neutral.

[tidla]

Skimmed thru this.

Have you charged and tested the battery off the vehicle with a drop charger or modern equivalent?

Had a fully loaded works van, up to temp and a warm day,cut out in slow moving traffic.

had to get those behind to push it to the nearest gap.

Twin batteries and one Battery just died dragging the other with it.

[Doctor Gollum]

Skimmed thru this.

Have you charged and tested the battery off the vehicle with a drop charger or modern equivalent?

Had a fully loaded works van, up to temp and a warm day,cut out in slow moving traffic.

had to get those behind to push it to the nearest gap.

Twin batteries and one Battery just died dragging the other with it.

Transhits are good for this...

[Doctor Gollum]

Have you got to the bottom of this yet

[Gaffers]

I don't get back until sunday evening. I have ordered some new engine mounts and bits to repair earth leads and the like. All set for when i get back. The tricky part will be getting it on the ramps to work underneath. Going to try hot wiring the sgarter motor properly, failing that i have a rigid towbar.

[Nick W]

Skimmed thru this.

Have you charged and tested the battery off the vehicle with a drop charger or modern equivalent?

Had a fully loaded works van, up to temp and a warm day,cut out in slow moving traffic.

had to get those behind to push it to the nearest gap.

Twin batteries and one Battery just died dragging the other with it.

Transhits are good for this...

As are Pajeros.

[Doctor Gollum]

I don't get back until sunday evening. I have ordered some new engine mounts and bits to repair earth leads and the like. All set for when i get back. The tricky part will be getting it on the ramps to work underneath. Going to try hot wiring the sgarter motor properly, failing that i have a rigid towbar.

Ah ok, thought you were maybe back this week... Am working sunday night, so our paths may cross

[Gaffers]

Got back last night and I am not feeling 100% so I didn't get to it till this morning.  I tried starting again and the issue remains.  Fully charged battery but when I try to start it will not turn over.  I hear the solenoid kick in but the motor does not turn.  It also feels like there is a short because the whole car electrics die and you get the reset noise when you reconnect the battery.

So I have whipped off the intercooler and taken out the starter motor.  All the pos and earth wiring looks ok.  I dont know if there are any earths under the car but the one which goes direct to the starter motor seems good.  I put the motor on a bench and tested it.  Solenoid kicks in nicely and the motor turns.

So I am a little stuck.  The engine turns over manually in gear (tried pulling several feet with the towbar and no lockup).  The starter is fine.  Clutch engagement/disengagement is fine (visual check anyway).  My only theory is that the engine mounts are worn (fits with something else) and when I was joining the DC I must have changed gears too briskly and caused the block to move on its mounts.  This in turn may have knocked the motor a few mm which would prevent the teeth from engaging on the flywheel and a short in the motor.  Or that the motor just needed manually turning a bit because it was in a dead spot. 

Thoughts?

[Viral_Jim]

Starting with a daft question. Have you checked that 12v is actually getting to the motor when you turn the key? If so I'd pull the motor and see if it will spin when not attached to the engine. 

[Gaffers]

Starting with a daft question. Have you checked that 12v is actually getting to the motor when you turn the key? If so I'd pull the motor and see if it will spin when not attached to the engine.

That's what i did.  The motor spins when you manually apply 12v.  (which i am secretly very happy about now i know how much a new starter motor costs)

Dud relay perhaps?

[Viral_Jim]

Would be my next choice (Because they're usually cheap ). Could also be causing a short depending on how fubar it is.