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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #45 on: 05 March 2021, 22:28:02 »

OK  guys ,, have opened the Bosch box . . .exactly as the Doc expected  .  .

as in the same as the colour piccy in Daves post reply #39. 

Looking at it I think it will be able to be made to fit and work. . but quite a bit shorter than what was in there . Same basic layout , gauze filter fits on bottom inlet, 2 power leads and outlet on top. May just have to make a spacer  so the centre plastic bit  ( No.8 ) holds the pump in place .

Will have a go tomorrow   . . .cheers all   :y
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #46 on: 05 March 2021, 22:50:18 »

 there's a 50 50 chance of getting those 2 wires "power leads" the wrong way round  ;)
unless you noted the original connections or they are marked
anything you make spacer wise needs to be fuel proof

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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #47 on: 06 March 2021, 08:10:46 »

All marked and photos taken Dave. Red is+  blue is -.  Thinking of making spacer from copper or metal tubing.  Plastic plumbing waste pipe would be ideal but doubt it is fuel proof.
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #48 on: 06 March 2021, 10:49:52 »

This pump won't fit.  Too many differences to adapt.  Much shorter, different  smaller diameter, gauze filter won't fit on inlet which is different  size, locating pins on bottom of pump don't match up.  All bad news. 
Ordered another which supposedly  matches the original bosch number.  If that don't fit then its either  try and match up at a motor factors ,buy the complete swirl pot and pump  or get one from a breaker. . . Or scrap the car  :o :o :o
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #49 on: 06 March 2021, 11:06:38 »

Looking at the list of parts, there seems to be two choices, for the retainer and insert, but no indication of which goes with which pump.

Some even cross reference to later Astras for superceded parts...

Have swapped a handful of Omega pumps, and other than the fiddly part of unclipping the pump assembly from the basket, have always gone to plan. Sounds like that was pure luck :o

You know the running issue is the pump itself, so would be churlish to scrap it for the sake of a single, available part.  :-\

An unused new part will still have value, so it's not a total bust.

Also, and I know that it is used, so will have a limited life, this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FUEL-PUMP-assembly-Omega-B-2-0-2-5-3-0-estate-saloon-9119098-93181359-Petrol-/113807236104 could be useful...

If you're lucky, the new pump will fit, if not it buys you time to get the correct pump for the existing casing.

Either way, this will drop straight in.  :y
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #50 on: 06 March 2021, 11:50:32 »

Ah yes. . Good detective work Doc.  If 2nd new one won't fit I will try that 30 quid used one you found.
Scrapping the car was mentioned purely out if frustration  ;D ;D >:(
Thanks for yours and everyone's help and input on this.   :y
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #51 on: 06 March 2021, 11:52:42 »

If nothing else it buys you time to get your one repaired  :y
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #52 on: 06 March 2021, 12:13:01 »

looking again at the part numbers etc , the dead pump and swirl pot fitted must have been replaced in the past with a part OLDER than the 2.6/3.2 as a complete assembly including swirl pot .

NEW 4 BAR  fuel parts pump 15.03
size wise 38mm x 114mm tall  :-\
what size is the original old non working pump ?
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #53 on: 06 March 2021, 13:32:48 »

Original pump body is 44mm diameter and case is 98mm long. Overall end to end of the inlet and outlet tubes is 150mm.

Agree Dave it could well have been changed to the earlier version but did not look like anyone had been in there previously.  Original vx fuel pipepinch clips seemed untouched

The replacement  bosch i was sent is 38mm diameter  88m long  and 112mm end to end of the in and out
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #54 on: 06 March 2021, 15:05:53 »

Y :you've a pm. Just the pump or as it's removed with all the gubbins.

 Check the relay, think it's purple one,
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #55 on: 06 March 2021, 16:04:19 »

Y :you've a pm. Just the pump or as it's removed with all the gubbins.

 Check the relay, think it's purple one,

PM replied to  :y
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #56 on: 06 March 2021, 17:53:28 »

looking again at the part numbers etc , the dead pump and swirl pot fitted must have been replaced in the past with a part OLDER than the 2.6/3.2 as a complete assembly including swirl pot .

NEW 4 BAR  fuel parts pump 15.03
size wise 38mm x 114mm tall  :-\
what size is the original old non working pump ?

I'm not so sure about that. The Vauxhall / Opel EPC at nemigaparts.com says that:

(Y22XE), Z22XE, Y26SE & Y32SE saloons use pump 9196213,
(Y22XE), Z22XE, Y26SE & Y32SE estates use pump 9119098.

So later estates and saloons have different pumps.
The OP has a 2.6 estate and the pump actually fitted is indeed 9119098. However 9119098 is NLS and superseded by 93181359.

So the pump required would be 9119098 or 93181359. Or a third party equivalent.
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #57 on: 07 March 2021, 09:31:03 »

Thanks Enceladus . . .again good info and detective work  . . Thank you :y  Oof at its best  :y
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #58 on: 12 March 2021, 19:45:09 »

Finally got this sorted after a calamity of errors by e bay supplier. Used a 2nd hand pump . See general car chat
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Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« Reply #59 on: 12 March 2021, 19:50:55 »

Finally got this sorted after a calamity of errors by e bay supplier. Used a 2nd hand pump . See general car chat
Must be the week for it ::) Alot of these projects/jobs would be a lot easier if suppliers weren't so useless...
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