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[Raeturbo]

Got to say, 82,000 tests, 111 cases 1 death (someone in their eighties) and a total lockdown?  Seems a bit extreme to me too. Or is there something I’m not seeing here?

[Sir Tigger KC]

Again banging on about America and Australia 

Here in the UK currently 1,267,080 confirmed active cases 1.9% of the population

Delta variant is on the increase in the UK

Astrazeneca vaccine is only 92%  effective against hospitalisation if you are double jabbed ,half the UK isn't double jabbed

every new infection is a possible mutation and look how well new variants have become more deadly in 18 months

wearing a mask in public places , social distancing and sanitizing seems a sensible choice right now   

unless you're immortal and have no consideration for others of course 

Eh?   Only 92% effective?   That's pretty good if you ask me? 

About 39 million have been double jabbed which is about 74% of the adult population which is also pretty good news.   

[Doctor Gollum]

Again banging on about America and Australia 

Here in the UK currently 1,267,080 confirmed active cases 1.9% of the population

Delta variant is on the increase in the UK

Astrazeneca vaccine is only 92%  effective against hospitalisation if you are double jabbed ,half the UK isn't double jabbed

every new infection is a possible mutation and look how well new variants have become more deadly in 18 months

wearing a mask in public places , social distancing and sanitizing seems a sensible choice right now   

unless you're immortal and have no consideration for others of course 

ONLY 881 CRITICAL cases out of that 1.2 million cases.

Obviously that detail doesn't fit the hysterical apocalyptic doomsday narrative 

[Doctor Gollum]

Meanwhile, back on topic:

Australia is going insane

Lay off the drugs.

Again, categorically, I do not, have never and will never take drugs. 

You might not agree with my perspective, or pretend to understand my thought processes but to suggest that I might be 'on' something is deeply offensive.

And if you think that what is happening in Australia currently is reasonable then there's quite possibly something very wrong with you.

Deeply offensive? Grow up.
And as for Australia, have you started with your theories over there now?

I am vehemently anti drugs, so yes deeply offensive not 'snowflakish'.

[Viral_Jim]

Got to say, 82,000 tests, 111 cases 1 death (someone in their eighties) and a total lockdown?  Seems a bit extreme to me too. Or is there something I’m not seeing here?

Australia's strategy for limiting the impact of C-19 has, from the start revolved around fast and decisive state-wide lockdowns where even a small number of cases are seen. They have a much lower vaccination rate than other countries (c15% vs about 60% in the UK for example). They've had about 950 deaths total from covid, vs our 130k over here, so its clearly an effective strategy for reducing deaths.

I guess it depends on what metric you use to measure a successful response to a pandemic.

As for the impact on businesses, we have 3 production facilities down there, one for underlay and two for carpet (so directly tied to the housing market and reasonable indicators of the economy as a whole) and the lockdowns aren't having a massive impact on the economy from their perspective. Certainly that's what the FDs are telling us. What is killing them is the cost of containers to bring in raw materials $6,000 a pop, up from $1500 18 months ago 

[Doctor Gollum]

Each lockdown only prolongs the inevitable should they ever reopen fully.

Presumably the impact on production depends on which States the plants are in as Victoria and NSW seem to be the most draconian 

My elderly aunt in Melbourne is scared of her own shadow and is reluctant to sit in her garden lest the police come knocking.

[STEMO]

Like I said earlier, governments will do what they do. Australia and the US can do what they like, it neither concerns nor interests me.

[Doctor Gollum]

Like I said earlier, governments will do what they do. Australia and the US can do what they like, it neither concerns nor interests me.

That's alright then.

[dave the builder]

ONLY 881 CRITICAL cases out of that 1.2 million cases.

Obviously that detail doesn't fit the hysterical apocalyptic doomsday narrative 

I don't need the big writing thanks ,it's you who must be blind 

those 881 are on ventilation , 5,686 in hospital 

Testing down 11%

deaths up 14.4%

I'm not "hysterical"

"how can you be so obtuse"    

[Doctor Gollum]

Up 14% compared to when? Yesterday? This day last year?

And even if you round up to 6,000, heck lets call it a round 60,000 whilst we're being dramatic  , that's still a very long way away from 1.2 million...

It's not a question of being obtuse, the numbers simply don't justify the hysteria.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Again banging on about America and Australia 

Here in the UK currently 1,267,080 confirmed active cases 1.9% of the population

Delta variant is on the increase in the UK

Astrazeneca vaccine is only 92%  effective against hospitalisation if you are double jabbed ,half the UK isn't double jabbed

every new infection is a possible mutation and look how well new variants have become more deadly in 18 months

wearing a mask in public places , social distancing and sanitizing seems a sensible choice right now   

unless you're immortal and have no consideration for others of course 

Eh?   Only 92% effective?   That's pretty good if you ask me? 

About 39 million have been double jabbed which is about 74% of the adult population which is also pretty good news.   

92% sounds good to me.

92% chance of winning the lottery
92% chance of not snuffing it from a heart attack or stroke.
92% chance of me having sex with a set of 23 year old blonde (girlie) triplets.

People can be too 'risk averse'

Accept there will always be risk and enjoy your life.

[STEMO]

92% does sound pretty good. But 8% of 39 million is 3,120,000 that are still unprotected. 

[dave the builder]

You pair still aren't getting the many points relevant to the UK   

there are now NO measures in place to stop the spread in the UK.

the whole idea of the measures is to not overload the NHS .

the NHS is massively overloaded now ,there is no quick fix for that .

20% of people who contract covid and live could have long covid and be a drain on resources for years.

people are not dead within 28 days of a positive test anymore ,they get blood clots and other complications ,die weeks or months down the line ,using up NHS resources .

every hospital bed taken up by a covid patient is one not available for other medical needs .

every new infection is a possible mutation

hands, face, space costs nothing ,it's not "hysteria" ,it's just common sense .

ignorance and selfishness is why the UK is in such a mess 

[Rangie]

92% does sound pretty good. But 8% of 39 million is 3,120,000 that are still unprotected. 

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Unfortunately the idiots will carry on regardless all this percentage quoting is total boll ocks  , some just argue for the sake of it and to try to wind folk up .

[Doctor Gollum]

The NHS can't cope with two things at once. It's never been able to.

It's always too much flu, or too hot, or too icy, or too expensive, or not enough staff...