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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #45 on: 04 June 2025, 14:14:39 »

Not that surprising - there will be losses in the cables and the inverter, all producing a nice load of heat, its not massive from a percentage perspective but when you are talking tens of kilowatts, it does add up

Yep. I did read that a shorter charge cable helps reduce losses a little, although I'm not sure how true that is.

Anyway, I charged it from 15% to 92% for exactly £18 using standard price electricity (24p per KW).This gave an extra 200miles of range. Not sure how that works out when compared to petrol or derv.

Surely not if you are driving.  ;D

So when are you investing in solar panels, or even a wind turbine on the Opti estate.
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #46 on: 04 June 2025, 14:34:24 »

Not that surprising - there will be losses in the cables and the inverter, all producing a nice load of heat, its not massive from a percentage perspective but when you are talking tens of kilowatts, it does add up

Yep. I did read that a shorter charge cable helps reduce losses a little, although I'm not sure how true that is.

Anyway, I charged it from 15% to 92% for exactly £18 using standard price electricity (24p per KW).This gave an extra 200miles of range. Not sure how that works out when compared to petrol or derv.

Surely not if you are driving.  ;D

So when are you investing in solar panels, or even a wind turbine on the Opti estate.

If I drove it like the BMW I'd expect to see less than 100 miles from a full charge. :)

Mrs Opti can clear 200-230 miles as she saves the polar bears and the planet. ::)

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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #47 on: 04 June 2025, 14:44:28 »

Actually, its high speed that kills the range (square law on aero losses) so hard acceleration and deacceleration (using regen and not the brakes) works pretty well for an EV.  :y

I did manage to get from Nottingham to Scarborough and back on a single charge once by using the A roads
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #48 on: 04 June 2025, 15:14:35 »

Not that surprising - there will be losses in the cables and the inverter, all producing a nice load of heat, its not massive from a percentage perspective but when you are talking tens of kilowatts, it does add up

Yep. I did read that a shorter charge cable helps reduce losses a little, although I'm not sure how true that is.

Anyway, I charged it from 15% to 92% for exactly £18 using standard price electricity (24p per KW).This gave an extra 200miles of range. Not sure how that works out when compared to petrol or derv.
200 miles, around town, would cost me £24.50. On the motorway, around £20.
Your milk float will behave the other way round. You'll get more miles around town than on the motorway.
So saying £18 gave you 200 miles isn't really that accurate. As with all cars, it's how and where it's driven that will determine how many miles you get.
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #49 on: 04 June 2025, 15:17:05 »

The above figures are using diesel from Asda at 134.7p, most fuel stations are more expensive than that.
Plus....I'm sure you could find cheaper electrickery than that.
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #50 on: 04 June 2025, 15:57:06 »

Actually, its high speed that kills the range (square law on aero losses) so hard acceleration and deacceleration (using regen and not the brakes) works pretty well for an EV.  :y

I did manage to get from Nottingham to Scarborough and back on a single charge once by using the A roads


Yep...regen is good. It is set to 'high' as opposed to 'low' and means brakes are not needed very often. One pedal driving I think they call it.

I get around 45-50 KW/100 miles but Mrs Opti manages around 33KW/100miles......which I think is slightly over 3 miles /KW after doing the maths.
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #51 on: 04 June 2025, 16:01:19 »

Not that surprising - there will be losses in the cables and the inverter, all producing a nice load of heat, its not massive from a percentage perspective but when you are talking tens of kilowatts, it does add up

Yep. I did read that a shorter charge cable helps reduce losses a little, although I'm not sure how true that is.

Anyway, I charged it from 15% to 92% for exactly £18 using standard price electricity (24p per KW).This gave an extra 200miles of range. Not sure how that works out when compared to petrol or derv.
200 miles, around town, would cost me £24.50. On the motorway, around £20.
Your milk float will behave the other way round. You'll get more miles around town than on the motorway.
So saying £18 gave you 200 miles isn't really that accurate. As with all cars, it's how and where it's driven that will determine how many miles you get.

Yep...MF don't like motorways as it really f*ucks the range at anything over 70MPH.

Octopussy have a tariff that can supply 'leccy' at 7p/KW during the night, but I think day units may cost  slightly more. Perhaps I should look into this.
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #52 on: 04 June 2025, 16:04:29 »

Actually, its high speed that kills the range (square law on aero losses) so hard acceleration and deacceleration (using regen and not the brakes) works pretty well for an EV.  :y

I did manage to get from Nottingham to Scarborough and back on a single charge once by using the A roads

It's really good to drive and handles so well. A proper Jag in that respect......and it's also beautifully screwed together.
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #53 on: 04 June 2025, 16:15:35 »

Actually, its high speed that kills the range (square law on aero losses) so hard acceleration and deacceleration (using regen and not the brakes) works pretty well for an EV.  :y

I did manage to get from Nottingham to Scarborough and back on a single charge once by using the A roads


https://youtu.be/q0M04d2n6Qg?feature=shared

About 75 miles at max speed 124mph/200KPH. >:D
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #54 on: 04 June 2025, 16:44:31 »

Try and use the brakes periodically so that they actually work when you need them ;)
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #55 on: 04 June 2025, 17:16:04 »

Can you get from the estate in Lincolnsausageshire to your castle in Woolly Welshland on one charge M'Lud?  ???

If not have you worked out where to stop for a cuppa while you charge up for the next leg?  ::)

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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #56 on: 05 June 2025, 13:20:55 »

Can you get from the estate in Lincolnsausageshire to your castle in Woolly Welshland on one charge M'Lud?  ???

If not have you worked out where to stop for a cuppa while you charge up for the next leg?  ::)

About 175 miles. So hopefully yes, although about half that is motorway.
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #57 on: 05 June 2025, 13:59:53 »

Can you get from the estate in Lincolnsausageshire to your castle in Woolly Welshland on one charge M'Lud?  ???

If not have you worked out where to stop for a cuppa while you charge up for the next leg?  ::)

About 175 miles. So hopefully yes, although about half that is motorway.

You could sit behind a lorry in the slipstream?  That might help you along abit?  :y                                     ;D
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #58 on: 05 June 2025, 14:33:28 »

Actually, its high speed that kills the range (square law on aero losses) so hard acceleration and deacceleration (using regen and not the brakes) works pretty well for an EV.  :y

I did manage to get from Nottingham to Scarborough and back on a single charge once by using the A roads


Yep...regen is good. It is set to 'high' as opposed to 'low' and means brakes are not needed very often. One pedal driving I think they call it.

I get around 45-50 KW/100 miles but Mrs Opti manages around 33KW/100miles......which I think is slightly over 3 miles /KW after doing the maths.

One piece of advice, when its fully charged, brake hard every so often to keep the discs cleaned up otherwise they never get used (at 100% charge the regen is less)
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Re: Who owns a milk float on here?
« Reply #59 on: 05 June 2025, 15:06:14 »

Actually, its high speed that kills the range (square law on aero losses) so hard acceleration and deacceleration (using regen and not the brakes) works pretty well for an EV.  :y

I did manage to get from Nottingham to Scarborough and back on a single charge once by using the A roads


Yep...regen is good. It is set to 'high' as opposed to 'low' and means brakes are not needed very often. One pedal driving I think they call it.

I get around 45-50 KW/100 miles but Mrs Opti manages around 33KW/100miles......which I think is slightly over 3 miles /KW after doing the maths.

One piece of advice, when its fully charged, brake hard every so often to keep the discs cleaned up otherwise they never get used (at 100% charge the regen is less)

I've noticed the discs go rusty very easily. :y
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