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Re: thats annoying....
« Reply #15 on: 04 April 2010, 22:32:32 »

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Daft question time.

Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.

Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y

They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y


Lol, that does not guarantee compitence these days  ;D :y :y
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« Reply #16 on: 04 April 2010, 22:35:24 »

I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
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« Reply #17 on: 04 April 2010, 22:37:24 »

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Mine were quite happy that is was listed as dual fuel by DVLA... :)

What i am aiming for, makes it much more appealing to them that its listed on DVLA as such, so going to wait until i get V5 back, and then ring them up  :)

What if, god forbid, something happens in the mean time?
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« Reply #18 on: 04 April 2010, 22:37:36 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
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« Reply #19 on: 04 April 2010, 22:40:02 »

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Daft question time.

Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.

Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y

They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y


Lol, that does not guarantee compitence these days  ;D :y :y

Indeed... I'm sure plenty of the "Approved Professionals" are far better qualified than me ::)

But you've seen the standard I worked to... I reckon any insurance inspector wouldn't look too closely ;)
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« Reply #20 on: 04 April 2010, 22:41:38 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good

Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
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« Reply #21 on: 04 April 2010, 22:43:29 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good

Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO

Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves
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« Reply #22 on: 04 April 2010, 22:46:36 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good

Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO

Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves

All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o
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« Reply #23 on: 04 April 2010, 22:47:58 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good

Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO

Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves

All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o

Fords have had valve trouble for as many years as I can remember!

Having said that, the Isuzu diesel inlets recess over about 80K miles.....but not to the extent that they are goosed thankfuly
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« Reply #24 on: 04 April 2010, 22:51:21 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good

Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO

Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves

All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o

Fords have had valve trouble for as many years as I can remember!

Having said that, the Isuzu diesel inlets recess over about 80K miles.....but not to the extent that they are goosed thankfuly

My Cavalier with the 1.7 Isuzu TD lump went to well over 320K and was still running... Just too smokey for the last MOT :(

And it really did take some stick ::) :-[
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« Reply #25 on: 04 April 2010, 22:54:03 »

They are one of the ones that recessed....required the shims setting every 70-80K miels or they reached the point where they struggled to start when cold.

Other than that, they were a bullet proof engine.

I note that a lot of the modern diesels are going back to shims as the 20K oil changes are affecting the lifter lift
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« Reply #26 on: 04 April 2010, 22:55:47 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good

Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO

Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves

All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o

Thats what i was told.....fords need valve lube fitted....vx's dont.
I believe Entwood has valve lube fitted on his omega....but i dont think his omega really needs it.
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« Reply #27 on: 04 April 2010, 22:57:47 »

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I see you are gassing on again tunnie!  in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!


If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good

Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO

Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves

All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o

Thats what i was told.....fords need valve lube fitted....vx's dont.
I believe Entwood has valve lube fitted on his omega....but i dont think his omega really needs it.

The Ford I was referring to had Valvelube fitted :o :o Although I'm not convinced the installation was all that good.

Entwood was given it as a freebie so uses it sparingly :y :y
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« Reply #28 on: 04 April 2010, 22:58:00 »

Sounds about right TD.....I remember when unleaded fuel arrived.....Fords were a big no-no for conversion and even the ones that supposidly had hardened seats were suffering badly.

The Vx engines were close to 100% compatible from about 1980!
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« Reply #29 on: 04 April 2010, 23:00:15 »

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They are one of the ones that recessed....required the shims setting every 70-80K miels or they reached the point where they struggled to start when cold.

Other than that, they were a bullet proof engine.

I note that a lot of the modern diesels are going back to shims as the 20K oil changes are affecting the lifter lift

 :-X :-X :-X :-X Never done in the 200K I ran it ::) ::)

20k oil changes frighten me on any engine TBH.

Then you hear of the stuff developed/under development over the pond in the US of A which is supposed to be a "Lifetime" Oil :o :o

Can't be good for the engine :-/
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