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[BigAl]

For example, one of the first threads I came across......

WARNING>>>>>>NWS

http://www.allcorsa.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/love-amputation-28467.html

Hope that put this forum in perspective a bit more........

so...

if i can find a car forum that allows bestiality pictures - that will be allowed here ?

[feeutfo]

 :-/
seems odd in too many ways, a contributer such as Lee, very helpfull member is unhappy, seems unfair nobody asked exactly why? although i've obviously missed it, maybe you all know whats going on?

The guy bends over.backwards it seems to me, which reminds me i havent ordered a boody calender yet.


That aside, i'd like to add a coupke of pence worth, i find general chat irritating! i just do, its an unfair opinion obviosly, i dont udually raise the issue for that reason, its all within forum giuidelines after all, and my hard luck that i feel that way about it.

Some might say that its a bit rude to hang around on a car forum using up server space talking about polotics, global warming, knitting, cats dogs birds sheep but never contribute to any of the help sections. I see several long time members who never venture to help anyone afaict, but then get a strop on and involve themselves in argument for good measure.

I agree the forum seems...well, divided? lost? lacking direction? to me the direction is cars, and the importance they play in our daily lives, not to mention thier cost in difficult times.

With that in mind i find it odd that 8 posts on 4 pages have no replys in general help, yet we have general chat overflowing with, what i refer to as clap trap, (unfair i know, just my opinion ) a lode of winging and whining and high hoarse rubbish about whats wrong and right with the world. All fine and above board, but how does this contribute to the forums direction, or my version of the forums direction at least? maybe its not a car forum but a bitch and moan forum? (Lee's issues aside obviously)

Some might say the community is the direction, without that we have nothing.

Some hypocracy here on oof too, imo, how does it help to jump on new members for asking about another members pet hate, like cup holders for example? Danny from belgiums thread sticks in my mind there.

And "your item in the for sale section is too expensive" type posts, how incredibbly rude is that.

ok ok i'm goung off on one, basickly it seems to me, for what its worth, at the end of the day, when alls said and done, its got dark etc etc, be helpfull,  obay the rules, repay the admins for the help we all have had from them, dont be a pita...but above all accept the fact its an open free to join web site, as in life we wont get on with everyone we meet, doesnt meen we should not try though.

...fair comment? or not? 

[BigAl]

With that in mind i find it odd that 8 posts on 4 pages have no replys in general help, yet we have general chat overflowing

 

I'll put my hand up for this - I'm more than happy to respond to idle banter in the GDA, but won't respond in any of the OH sections unless I can actually help or advise

[feeutfo]

With that in mind i find it odd that 8 posts on 4 pages have no replys in general help, yet we have general chat overflowing

 

I'll put my hand up for this - I'm more than happy to respond to idle banter in the GDA, but won't respond in any of the OH sections unless I can actually help or advise

could just bump them, not against forum rules i'm fairly sure...? no knowledge or experience required. Although there will be occassions when nobody knows, i'm sure.

[TheBoy]

lots of members surf here with a young person sat on their knee

Not me, the restraining order prevents that.....

[webby23]

For example, one of the first threads I came across......

WARNING>>>>>>NWS

http://www.allcorsa.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/love-amputation-28467.html

Hope that put this forum in perspective a bit more........

My point, BigAl was that compared to many other forums, the langauge and content on here isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be.....

so...

if i can find a car forum that allows bestiality pictures - that will be allowed here ?

[STMO999]

I'm glad I logged off early last night. I might have been tempted to interject with a few vulgar expletives

[Sixstring]

As a relatively new member on this forum who joined primarily because of the car information available, and the ability to contribute my small amount of specialised experience in return, I am not offended by bad language ( I am 49 yo, have worked in workshops and onsite for most of my working life, and it is heard everyday) HOWEVER.....

there is a time and place for it, minors DO log in as guests (my neighbours son loves car forums as he is car mad, and he is 11) perhaps a lot of things posted on here could be put in a section that is passworded, and can only be accessed via a PM to a moderator,(who will know if you are over 18) then you can say what you like, safe in the knowledge that anybody who CAN access that part will know ther may be profanity, NWS jokes and pictures, etc. If you don't want to see it, don't go to that part of the forum, simples.  LOTs of very nice, helpful people are on this forum, and I have benefitted from their time and advice, and for that I thank them profusely. There are a few "characters" too, no names, no pack drill, but MOSTLY we share a love of a particular marque, and help others with problems on their cars in whatever way we can.
I really like this forum, and the people in it generally are decent people who just "stray from the line" a few times.
Can I respectfully suggest we are more tolerant, and perhaps think a bit more before we post, lest we alienate those that came here like me for a bit of sameness and knowledge. Mr Boss of the forum, and all the moderators don't really want to spend their time acting like teachers and headmasters telling off bad schoolchildren!!

Without prejudice and with respect to all.

Mike.

[Mr Skrunts]

All inter4esting stuff.

Just read Chris's reply and yes I would say after coming here for Omega help they end up in GC, I must admit it's my favourite section on most days of the week.  I choose what I read or/and reply to, not into politics so you will very rarely see a reply from, but is of great interest to others, one of the biggest threads is the climate one, not sure if I have posted in there yet.

When I started I was actually scared to post but that was me being shy, now look at me, this is post 19,000, what made the differemce, simples, I posted a "Hi, I'm new to the forum, and got 4 or 5 welcome messages.  That was 2 years ago, All I used to do in my spare time was play Yahoo pool, amd at that I had played 10/12 thousand times.  Havent played a game since.

I try to welcome all the newbies as do a dozen or so other members, I honestly think it makes a difference, it did for me.

Help sections, I flick through them every day, at times I generally feel out of my depth, but will input where I can, my knowledge of the Omega will never be as good as some members but at times it's good enough to help others.

The thing is it's a varied forum, with varied attitudes, and if you dont need help, or unable to help then what do you do, well it's obvious, you nip into general chat so the Steve the resident baracle can take the pee out of you. 

Lauguage, is'nt a problem if used in it's context, blatent misuse of it is becoming the down side of the forum.  I swear all the time during my daily routine, but dont swear that much on here, others swear a lot, but you have different attidutes to the ones that do.  2 of these members have actually left, but I am glad to say they both came back.

The thing is, if you dont like someones attitude, and voice your opinion, it doesnt really help the situation when your attitude becomes worse that the one that is supposed to have started. 

[mudflap]

I have been on quite a few forums in my time involving various pursuits (mostly music related), i have been called a jerk (or worse) for expressing an opinion or belief to some less enlightened members from certain corners,   but OOF has been the least pretentious and rude forum i have encountered, and taking the view as a newcomer to the world of Omegas the most helpful -  i have found all the members here on this forum to have been friendly to a fault  and very keen to offer their advice, experience and earthy humour 

It would be a shame to lose any valuable experienced members over recent silly misunderstandings, this site is just too precious for that...i should knock your bloody heads together 

[ScottieMV6]

:-/
seems odd in too many ways, a contributer such as Lee, very helpfull member is unhappy, seems unfair nobody asked exactly why? although i've obviously missed it, maybe you all know whats going on?

The guy bends over.backwards it seems to me, which reminds me i havent ordered a boody calender yet.


That aside, i'd like to add a coupke of pence worth, i find general chat irritating! i just do, its an unfair opinion obviosly, i dont udually raise the issue for that reason, its all within forum giuidelines after all, and my hard luck that i feel that way about it.

Some might say that its a bit rude to hang around on a car forum using up server space talking about polotics, global warming, knitting, cats dogs birds sheep but never contribute to any of the help sections. I see several long time members who never venture to help anyone afaict, but then get a strop on and involve themselves in argument for good measure.

I agree the forum seems...well, divided? lost? lacking direction? to me the direction is cars, and the importance they play in our daily lives, not to mention thier cost in difficult times.

With that in mind i find it odd that 8 posts on 4 pages have no replys in general help, yet we have general chat overflowing with, what i refer to as clap trap, (unfair i know, just my opinion ) a lode of winging and whining and high hoarse rubbish about whats wrong and right with the world. All fine and above board, but how does this contribute to the forums direction, or my version of the forums direction at least? maybe its not a car forum but a bitch and moan forum? (Lee's issues aside obviously)

Some might say the community is the direction, without that we have nothing.

Some hypocracy here on oof too, imo, how does it help to jump on new members for asking about another members pet hate, like cup holders for example? Danny from belgiums thread sticks in my mind there.

And "your item in the for sale section is too expensive" type posts, how incredibbly rude is that.

ok ok i'm goung off on one, basickly it seems to me, for what its worth, at the end of the day, when alls said and done, its got dark etc etc, be helpfull,  obay the rules, repay the admins for the help we all have had from them, dont be a pita...but above all accept the fact its an open free to join web site, as in life we wont get on with everyone we meet, doesnt meen we should not try though.

...fair comment? or not? 

Totally agree with everything said here Chris

I joined the forum primarily to get help from the most knowledgeable people around for my car. I am not the most skilled mechanic and the help and support received has been priceless.

However I tend not to reply too much in GC. This is not because (as has been suggested earlier in this thread) I don't like the language. It is more because I find I am out of my depth in certain areas (politics being one) and so do not wish to be "shot down" by someone with a little more knowledge. Also I find there are a lot of private jokes and it sometimes seems a bit "cliquey". There have been times when i have made a genuine point on a thread and it has been completely ignored.

I am not moaning as I enjoy most of the forum and could not keep my car going without the help and support but I just wanted to offer my opinion why people may find they need a break or to leave.

[TheBoy]

Personally, as a forum user, I do think that the language is often too bad.  You wouldn't swear loudly whilst talking to strangers in a room, and shouldn't here really. Its rude.

Now, I am as big an offender as anyone I guess.  I work in a Blokey environment, I was brought up with 3 other brothers (all older than me).  I do swear all too frequently in everyday life - a particular trait I do try hard to change, but that irrelevent here.  I do suffer a short fuse, and when tempers fray, the language degenerates.

I will try to refrain in the future.     

[Lizzie_Zoom]

:-/
seems odd in too many ways, a contributer such as Lee, very helpfull member is unhappy, seems unfair nobody asked exactly why? although i've obviously missed it, maybe you all know whats going on?

The guy bends over.backwards it seems to me, which reminds me i havent ordered a boody calender yet.


That aside, i'd like to add a coupke of pence worth, i find general chat irritating! i just do, its an unfair opinion obviosly, i dont udually raise the issue for that reason, its all within forum giuidelines after all, and my hard luck that i feel that way about it.

Some might say that its a bit rude to hang around on a car forum using up server space talking about polotics, global warming, knitting, cats dogs birds sheep but never contribute to any of the help sections. I see several long time members who never venture to help anyone afaict, but then get a strop on and involve themselves in argument for good measure.

I agree the forum seems...well, divided? lost? lacking direction? to me the direction is cars, and the importance they play in our daily lives, not to mention thier cost in difficult times.

With that in mind i find it odd that 8 posts on 4 pages have no replys in general help, yet we have general chat overflowing with, what i refer to as clap trap, (unfair i know, just my opinion ) a lode of winging and whining and high hoarse rubbish about whats wrong and right with the world. All fine and above board, but how does this contribute to the forums direction, or my version of the forums direction at least? maybe its not a car forum but a bitch and moan forum? (Lee's issues aside obviously)

Some might say the community is the direction, without that we have nothing.

Some hypocracy here on oof too, imo, how does it help to jump on new members for asking about another members pet hate, like cup holders for example? Danny from belgiums thread sticks in my mind there.

And "your item in the for sale section is too expensive" type posts, how incredibbly rude is that.

ok ok i'm goung off on one, basickly it seems to me, for what its worth, at the end of the day, when alls said and done, its got dark etc etc, be helpfull,  obay the rules, repay the admins for the help we all have had from them, dont be a pita...but above all accept the fact its an open free to join web site, as in life we wont get on with everyone we meet, doesnt meen we should not try though.

...fair comment? or not? 

I agree with you fully there Chris, and fair comment!

I for one will, and do, always give advise in the "Help" sections when I can, using my mechanically training and experience, but I am sure that there are many members on this forum who cannot do so due to their lack of knowledge and therefore are the ones that need help.

We can all get on together, but it is the rudeness and attitude of some that can spoil it all

Still a great forum though, and when you look at others you soon appreciate it even more!! 8-) 8-) 8-)

[cem_devecioglu]

:-/
seems odd in too many ways, a contributer such as Lee, very helpfull member is unhappy, seems unfair nobody asked exactly why? although i've obviously missed it, maybe you all know whats going on?

The guy bends over.backwards it seems to me, which reminds me i havent ordered a boody calender yet.


That aside, i'd like to add a coupke of pence worth, i find general chat irritating! i just do, its an unfair opinion obviosly, i dont udually raise the issue for that reason, its all within forum giuidelines after all, and my hard luck that i feel that way about it.

Some might say that its a bit rude to hang around on a car forum using up server space talking about polotics, global warming, knitting, cats dogs birds sheep but never contribute to any of the help sections. I see several long time members who never venture to help anyone afaict, but then get a strop on and involve themselves in argument for good measure.

I agree the forum seems...well, divided? lost? lacking direction? to me the direction is cars, and the importance they play in our daily lives, not to mention thier cost in difficult times.

With that in mind i find it odd that 8 posts on 4 pages have no replys in general help, yet we have general chat overflowing with, what i refer to as clap trap, (unfair i know, just my opinion ) a lode of winging and whining and high hoarse rubbish about whats wrong and right with the world. All fine and above board, but how does this contribute to the forums direction, or my version of the forums direction at least? maybe its not a car forum but a bitch and moan forum? (Lee's issues aside obviously)

Some might say the community is the direction, without that we have nothing.

Some hypocracy here on oof too, imo, how does it help to jump on new members for asking about another members pet hate, like cup holders for example? Danny from belgiums thread sticks in my mind there.

And "your item in the for sale section is too expensive" type posts, how incredibbly rude is that.

ok ok i'm goung off on one, basickly it seems to me, for what its worth, at the end of the day, when alls said and done, its got dark etc etc, be helpfull,  obay the rules, repay the admins for the help we all have had from them, dont be a pita...but above all accept the fact its an open free to join web site, as in life we wont get on with everyone we meet, doesnt meen we should not try though.

...fair comment? or not? 

Totally agree with everything said here Chris

I joined the forum primarily to get help from the most knowledgeable people around for my car. I am not the most skilled mechanic and the help and support received has been priceless.

However I tend not to reply too much in GC. This is not because (as has been suggested earlier in this thread) I don't like the language. It is more because I find I am out of my depth in certain areas (politics being one) and so do not wish to be "shot down" by someone with a little more knowledge. Also I find there are a lot of private jokes and it sometimes seems a bit "cliquey". There have been times when i have made a genuine point on a thread and it has been completely ignored.
I am not moaning as I enjoy most of the forum and could not keep my car going without the help and support but I just wanted to offer my opinion why people may find they need a break or to leave.

dont worry you are not lonely

[Lizzie_Zoom]

:-/
seems odd in too many ways, a contributer such as Lee, very helpfull member is unhappy, seems unfair nobody asked exactly why? although i've obviously missed it, maybe you all know whats going on?

The guy bends over.backwards it seems to me, which reminds me i havent ordered a boody calender yet.


That aside, i'd like to add a coupke of pence worth, i find general chat irritating! i just do, its an unfair opinion obviosly, i dont udually raise the issue for that reason, its all within forum giuidelines after all, and my hard luck that i feel that way about it.

Some might say that its a bit rude to hang around on a car forum using up server space talking about polotics, global warming, knitting, cats dogs birds sheep but never contribute to any of the help sections. I see several long time members who never venture to help anyone afaict, but then get a strop on and involve themselves in argument for good measure.

I agree the forum seems...well, divided? lost? lacking direction? to me the direction is cars, and the importance they play in our daily lives, not to mention thier cost in difficult times.

With that in mind i find it odd that 8 posts on 4 pages have no replys in general help, yet we have general chat overflowing with, what i refer to as clap trap, (unfair i know, just my opinion ) a lode of winging and whining and high hoarse rubbish about whats wrong and right with the world. All fine and above board, but how does this contribute to the forums direction, or my version of the forums direction at least? maybe its not a car forum but a bitch and moan forum? (Lee's issues aside obviously)

Some might say the community is the direction, without that we have nothing.

Some hypocracy here on oof too, imo, how does it help to jump on new members for asking about another members pet hate, like cup holders for example? Danny from belgiums thread sticks in my mind there.

And "your item in the for sale section is too expensive" type posts, how incredibbly rude is that.

ok ok i'm goung off on one, basickly it seems to me, for what its worth, at the end of the day, when alls said and done, its got dark etc etc, be helpfull,  obay the rules, repay the admins for the help we all have had from them, dont be a pita...but above all accept the fact its an open free to join web site, as in life we wont get on with everyone we meet, doesnt meen we should not try though.

...fair comment? or not? 

Totally agree with everything said here Chris

I joined the forum primarily to get help from the most knowledgeable people around for my car. I am not the most skilled mechanic and the help and support received has been priceless.

However I tend not to reply too much in GC. This is not because (as has been suggested earlier in this thread) I don't like the language. It is more because I find I am out of my depth in certain areas (politics being one) and so do not wish to be "shot down" by someone with a little more knowledge. Also I find there are a lot of private jokes and it sometimes seems a bit "cliquey". There have been times when i have made a genuine point on a thread and it has been completely ignored.

I am not moaning as I enjoy most of the forum and could not keep my car going without the help and support but I just wanted to offer my opinion why people may find they need a break or to leave.

That is a common feeling for most of us and can make you feel paronoid, with a feeling of "why do I bother"!  But never forget Scottie that many members do read all the posts, taking the points on board, but likewise they may not wish to ever make a posted comment on here due to many and varied personal reasons.  For some it is just too much of a daunting experience!