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[Dishevelled Den]

8 series, 840ci

2002ti? Or perhaps a 1980's 635CSi.

Wouldn't touch their current offering, putting aside the fact that nobody would let me out of T junctions.

Yes, they have got more popular, because they have cheapened their offering to Mondeo level to get more of the repmobile market but are trading on a reputation built in the 1970's and 1980's and, IMHO, it shows in the quality.

The Omega is the better car for me, for so many reasons.

Kevin

This was my second ever car 2002Tii circa 1974 - the first being an under-powered 1602 in a delightful teal colour;




The 635 was indeed a very desireable machine

[Dishevelled Den]

Never been a big fan of the BMW looks being honest other than one, don't know what type it was but has a pointed front with pop up head lights and its V8 sounded lovely.
Again its horses for courses, they sell alot of BMW's so they must be pretty good. 

8 series, 840ci

Yes thats the one Del Boy I googled to have a look and that is one gorgeous looking car. I would also buy one and not care what anyone else thought

I agree Del, what a lovely car 8-)  I wouldn't have any problem with owning (and driving) one.

[smithpa7]

I own a Omega 3.0 Elite Auto estate(facelift) and a BMW 525i SE touring(previous shape).

The BMW is more refined than the Omega (just).

It is certainly more economical (probably due to the manual gearbox).

The performance is very similar. I assume the Omega is the heavier car.

The BMW is definitely more reliable. I have only replaced tyres and brake pads in 4 years of ownership.

However, after everything I have just written I do love my Omega, it is the car I would like to keep for as long as possible

I wish I could say why.......I just don't know! Perhaps you do have to be a little insane to own one

[geoffr70]

You are trying to say that one car is better than another merely because it is faster, which isn't really a good comparison. That is only one aspect, what about someone who doesn't want to go fast?

I'm not TRYING to say anything, I stated that, in my opinion, an M5 is a better car than a top of the range Vauxhall... I wasn't necessarily on about how fast they go, in fact I didn't mention performance at all...

Well comparing totr Omega to an M5 isn't a fair and proper comparison. A luxury saloon to an f1 derived engined road car with a 5 litre v10 and 507bhp?. The whole point of the m5 and all m cars for that matter is speed and performance, which when you make the comparison, it suggests it is the performance you are talking about.

I like to think they are all made from the same bits of stuff that come out the ground, and just happen to think that Vauxhalls do it better for cheaper

[jonnycool]

I'd have a BMW 5 series over an Omega any day, but I couldn't afford a comparable one to mine. You get what you pay for I suppose, the Omega remains the best compromise though, and I still love it 

[Mr Skrunts]

"x" plate omega price compared to"x" plate 5? series?

Ok lets even tje field.

2.5 TD Elite v 525 TD SE  Both 1999 models

Having had both, BM would leave the Mig standing.

I was trying not to base it arround the engine but as we know the mig one is detuned.

[Del Boy]

You are trying to say that one car is better than another merely because it is faster, which isn't really a good comparison. That is only one aspect, what about someone who doesn't want to go fast?

I'm not TRYING to say anything, I stated that, in my opinion, an M5 is a better car than a top of the range Vauxhall... I wasn't necessarily on about how fast they go, in fact I didn't mention performance at all...

Well comparing totr Omega to an M5 isn't a fair and proper comparison. A luxury saloon to an f1 derived engined road car with a 5 litre v10 and 507bhp?. The whole point of the m5 and all m cars for that matter is speed and performance, which when you make the comparison, it suggests it is the performance you are talking about.

I like to think they are all made from the same bits of stuff that come out the ground, and just happen to think that Vauxhalls do it better for cheaper

Ok then if we're going on about fair, why are you comapring a BMW 5 Series E60 (2003-2010) which was introduced into production in 2003 to a car which went out of production in 2003? You'd have to compare the BMW 5 Series E39 (1996-2003) to make it a fair test  :-?

[Brikhead]

The topic title is Omega -vs.- B.M.W.

...f1 derived engined road car with a 5 litre v10 and 507bhp?.

Surely thats got to be better than something cobbled together by G.M.?

[geoffr70]

You are trying to say that one car is better than another merely because it is faster, which isn't really a good comparison. That is only one aspect, what about someone who doesn't want to go fast?

I'm not TRYING to say anything, I stated that, in my opinion, an M5 is a better car than a top of the range Vauxhall... I wasn't necessarily on about how fast they go, in fact I didn't mention performance at all...

Well comparing totr Omega to an M5 isn't a fair and proper comparison. A luxury saloon to an f1 derived engined road car with a 5 litre v10 and 507bhp?. The whole point of the m5 and all m cars for that matter is speed and performance, which when you make the comparison, it suggests it is the performance you are talking about.

I like to think they are all made from the same bits of stuff that come out the ground, and just happen to think that Vauxhalls do it better for cheaper

Ok then if we're going on about fair, why are you comapring a BMW 5 Series E60 (2003-2010) which was introduced into production in 2003 to a car which went out of production in 2003? You'd have to compare the BMW 5 Series E39 (1996-2003) to make it a fair test  :-?

Well Del Boy, I'm not comparing a BMW 5 Series E60 (2003-2010) to an Omega, someone else is. I'm saying it's a bad comparison, it's all in the posts. I'd rather compare a BMW to a lump of chod. I know which is better

And Brikhead, why has an M5 got to be better than something that GM 'cobbled together? Define 'better'? Because it's faster? No. There are hundreds of ways to compare any particular item. 'M' cars are stupid cars, completely irrelevant to anyone.

It seems a little strange, on an Omega forum I'm the only one fighting the corner of the Omega against that other car.

[Del Boy]

Nothing wrong with sticking up for an Omega, but calling BMW's rubbish just because you're defending something is a bit childish really. As far as I was aware you mentioned a 5.0 V10, which is out of the E60, others just mentioned an M5. If you don't like them, then say I don't like them, but a full boar moan up about BMW, how terrible they really are, how terrible all the drivers are and anything associated with BMW is just a bit sad if you ask me. I'd be saing exactly the same if I didn't have one too.

It's a shame you're so far away as I'd bring my BMW around to you to see if you still thought it was terrible.

By the way you said when mentioning ///M cars how terrible they were, why did you call the M5 a luxury saloon earlier then? Surely it's an awful terrible saloon which had absolutely no purpose on this planet because it has a BMW badge on it 

[johny5]

You could compare an omega to a bmw e39 which both go around the same age, or the e34 against the Omega A.  BMW's are all about build quality reliability and performance, dont get me wrong, i like both but i think generally BMW's are better in there own way, both fairly equally priced but i know which id rather have.

[derry lad]

ive got a 2004 330d msport and i love it! then again i love my 3.2 v6 special just as much,some very childish views being expressed im afraid!!

[geoffr70]

Nothing wrong with sticking up for an Omega, but calling BMW's rubbish just because you're defending something is a bit childish really. As far as I was aware you mentioned a 5.0 V10, which is out of the E60, others just mentioned an M5. If you don't like them, then say I don't like them, but a full boar moan up about BMW, how terrible they really are, how terrible all the drivers are and anything associated with BMW is just a bit sad if you ask me. I'd be saing exactly the same if I didn't have one too.

It's a shame you're so far away as I'd bring my BMW around to you to see if you still thought it was terrible.

By the way you said when mentioning ///M cars how terrible they were, why did you call the M5 a luxury saloon earlier then? Surely it's an awful terrible saloon which had absolutely no purpose on this planet because it has a BMW badge on it 

Del Boy, please read my posts in the correct context then everything will run smoothly.

I'm not saying BMWs are rubbish to defend something else?!?! How the hell does that work?!?! So I would suggest that it is childish to not read posts properly then make incorrect comments on them.

Also, I didn't refer to an M5 as a luxury saloon, I referred to an Omega as a luxury saloon. Again, it's all in the posts.

It's not sad to have a big moan about them. In any case I'm not moaning. As i stated before, I'm stating my unbiased observations. Therefore it is reasonable to induce all BMW drivers are bad, as of all the ones I have seen none of them are any good. they all do things wrong either little or big. i try to be the best every time i go out, no matter how little. Too many people just get in a car and make it move, not drive it, they might know how to operate the controls, but they certainly can't drive.

[Del Boy]

Nothing wrong with sticking up for an Omega, but calling BMW's rubbish just because you're defending something is a bit childish really. As far as I was aware you mentioned a 5.0 V10, which is out of the E60, others just mentioned an M5. If you don't like them, then say I don't like them, but a full boar moan up about BMW, how terrible they really are, how terrible all the drivers are and anything associated with BMW is just a bit sad if you ask me. I'd be saing exactly the same if I didn't have one too.

It's a shame you're so far away as I'd bring my BMW around to you to see if you still thought it was terrible.

By the way you said when mentioning ///M cars how terrible they were, why did you call the M5 a luxury saloon earlier then? Surely it's an awful terrible saloon which had absolutely no purpose on this planet because it has a BMW badge on it 

Del Boy, please read my posts in the correct context then everything will run smoothly.

I'm not saying BMWs are rubbish to defend something else?!?! How the hell does that work?!?! So I would suggest that it is childish to not read posts properly then make incorrect comments on them.

Also, I didn't refer to an M5 as a luxury saloon, I referred to an Omega as a luxury saloon. Again, it's all in the posts.

It's not sad to have a big moan about them. In any case I'm not moaning. As i stated before, I'm stating my unbiased observations. Therefore it is reasonable to induce all BMW drivers are bad, as of all the ones I have seen none of them are any good. they all do things wrong either little or big. i try to be the best every time i go out, no matter how little. Too many people just get in a car and make it move, not drive it, they might know how to operate the controls, but they certainly can't drive.

Indeed you didn't I apologise 

[johny5]

Can we take a vote on this as to which is better?