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[PhilRich]

So. We are all agreed then. Good.

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I thought Marks DTM had removed all the inappropriate posts?^^^^ 

[cem_devecioglu]

Nick. Are you actually comparing a plane made from aluminium and with 10,000 gallons of aviatioon fuel hitting a steel framed building, with someone not wearing a seatbelt?

Yes, I am.

how and why ?

The WTC building was 70% air. There were steel columns, but obviously these were spaced far enough apart to permit an aircraft fuselage feasibly to penetrate without striking one full on. The outer covering of the WTC, in between floors, was largely glass. Thus, it is entirely possible for the cockpit to enter and not be totally crushed. Equally, it can be reasonably expected that the hijacker was not strapped in as a pilot would be. There is a great deal of debris ejected from the WTC face opposite to that of impact. It is entirely conceivable that some of that debris contained body parts and equally conceivable that some of those parts belonged to a hijacker.

nope .. not acceptable.. now thats double standard..

you claim that the building collapse from the heat of fire and you say the passport paper survived because may be it jumped out

this is really conspiracy theory , the building is enough wide to stop any part of the airplane for passing  to the otherside .. may I remind that even the steel black box at the TAIL of airplane didnt survive..

As mentioned many times, WTC building 7 was only very slightly damaged

NY fireman say it was damaged enough to cause them to evacuate. Are they lying?

a firemans evacuation standard is not a norm for a building to collapse..

3. No plane hit the penatgon at all. Comparing the destruction of a Small Phatom F4 aircraft hitting 30 ft thick concrete at 600mph with the possibility of a commercial airliner hitting 6" thick walls of a building at 300mph, is nonsense.

So is the claim of 6-inch walls at the Pentagon. The walls were 24" thick!! Furthermore, the portion of the structure, known as "Wedge 1" had recently undergone a structural refurbishment. "The exterior walls had been reinforced with steel beams and columns, bolted where they met at each floor."
(See: http://www.architectureweek.com/2001/1003/today.html & http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp)

   look in the pictures I dont see any 24" thick walls
or I'm blind..

How does ANYONE here explain the steel beams, which were clearly cut at 45 degrees, excatly as they would be in demolition? Anyone at all?

Yes, they were cut at that angle during the rescue/clean-up operation. Cuts are made at that angle to prevent the columns toppling.
http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

how many were cut ? all of them ?

What angers me and baffles me, is IF this was a demolition (which I absolutely believe) and someone was trying to hide it, why not evactuate the buildings first? You could still fly two planes into it and still demolish it, but why kill 3000+ people for nothing?

Because it WASN'T a demolition!

there is a saying in my language translated "you cant cover the sun with mud"

paralel explosions in those pictures are amazingly obvious..


you accept or not .. it was..how you explain the explosive chemical remains found in debris..?

Mr RonaldMcBurger with your permission please 

[Mysteryman]

So. We are all agreed then. Good.

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I thought Marks DTM had removed all the inappropriate posts?^^^^ 

Starting to repeat yourself, old fella?

[PhilRich]

So. We are all agreed then. Good.

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I thought Marks DTM had removed all the inappropriate posts?^^^^ 

Starting to repeat yourself, old fella?

Yeah, aint gettin' old a bitch?

[MikeDundee]

I have to totally disagree with all comments on this subject, having looked into it in great detail myself and found evidence, that everyone appears to overlook:

1. The planes were taken over and controlled by aliens.
2. Subsequently BL, AQ & CIA etc paid off by the Aliens to conspire the story against BL & AQ, even better than the Orson Welles radio show about the invasion.


   

[Nickbat]

I've been out since 3pm. Did I miss something? :-?

[Turk]

I have to totally disagree with all comments on this subject, having looked into it in great detail myself and found evidence, that everyone appears to overlook:

1. The planes were taken over and controlled by aliens.
2. Subsequently BL, AQ & CIA etc paid off by the Aliens to conspire the story against BL & AQ, even better than the Orson Welles radio show about the invasion.


   

Right, that ones sorted then !!     

[jonnycool]

I've been out since 3pm. Did I miss something? :-?
 

Yep, aliens did it - sorted 

[Unicornrider]

Would explain why the Amercian intellignce agencies are the way they are...ive met plenty of ex CIA in my last postion.

Weird bunch.

[Shackeng]

I am now convinced it was a conspiracy, I'm with all you doubters and President Ahmadinejad of Iran.

http://sentinelsource.com/articles/2010/09/24/news/national/free/id_413579.txt:y

[tunnie]

there are certainly lots of views on this, i do remember one where one of the plains that failed to hit, 'crashed' yet an engine was found 7 miles from crash site? Indicates something happened in the air there.

But i agree with the first comments, if this was planned, i don't believe they could keep it secret, someone would talk, someone would have taken photos on a phone, or recorded something for future blackmail.

[cem_devecioglu]

I am now convinced it was a conspiracy, I'm with all you doubters and President Ahmadinejad of Iran.

http://sentinelsource.com/articles/2010/09/24/news/national/free/id_413579.txt:y

ahmedinejad says the opposite

[Shackeng]

I am now convinced it was a conspiracy, I'm with all you doubters and President Ahmadinejad of Iran.

http://sentinelsource.com/articles/2010/09/24/news/national/free/id_413579.txt:y

ahmedinejad says the opposite

Huh?

 Ahmadinejad also asserted that the “majority of the American people as well as other nations and politicians agree” that “some segments within that the U.S. government orchestrated the (Sept. 11) attack to reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East.”

[cem_devecioglu]

I am now convinced it was a conspiracy, I'm with all you doubters and President Ahmadinejad of Iran.

http://sentinelsource.com/articles/2010/09/24/news/national/free/id_413579.txt:y

ahmedinejad says the opposite

Huh?

 Ahmadinejad also asserted that the “majority of the American people as well as other nations and politicians agree” that “some segments within that the U.S. government orchestrated the (Sept. 11) attack to reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East.”

do you believe its real or its a conspiracy theory  ?

[albitz]

I am not a believer in the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but I did wonder about the plane that crashed onto the Queens area of NYC about a year later. Could it have strayed a bit off course and got itself shot down in a knee jerk panic reaction ?
I was  surprised at the time that imo it didnt seem to generate the level of publicity that I thought  that such an event would have done. :-/