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[Banjax]

I think if the west worried less about who they think is and isn't a terrorist and more about the type of regimes we support then the world would be a far safer place 

Yes, an influenced regime would be soooo much safer. 

thats right NB there is only 2 options in your world view, name a country and bingo - heres your two options:

UK: capitilism or communism take your pick

Libya: dictator or terrorist

that'll be the big bumper book of swivel-eyed truisms then. £2.99 in all good bookshops

 


please dont change NB - this is a golden age for your stuff - everyone should read these......thoughts - Twitter perhaps? 

Twitter sounds good.

When they bring out idiotter, that'll be for you.

the old "twitter sounds a bit like idiotter gag" - classic - didnt that get old on day 2 of twitter 

i think "last of the summer wine" even covered it 

[Nickbat]

the old "twitter sounds a bit like idiotter gag" - classic - didnt that get old on day 2 of twitter 

i think "last of the summer wine" even covered it 

Well, since you are always using hackneyed expressions like "swivel-eyed", I thought you preferred the use of worn-out words and phrases.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

For double standards you only have to look at the Jews and Palestine. Why hasn't the murder of Arabs been stopped there? (Rhetorical question doesn't need an answer).
 

Huh? 

What about the murder of Jews? It's a two-way street, Varche.

12 March 2011: Five members of Jewish family killed in suspected Palestinian militant attack

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/west-bank-jewish-family-killed

I wish you showed the same sensitivity when palestinians were under phosphor bombs :-/

.........................and that is what fuels the hatred and anger amongst the Palestinians Cem!  So many in authority in the West are all too keen to ignore the sins of the Israeli's; but I will not go any further on that subject!  Upsets too many people it seems!

[Nickbat]

.........................and that is what fuels the hatred and anger amongst the Palestinians Cem!  So many in authority in the West are all too keen to ignore the sins of the Israeli's; but I will not go any further on that subject!  Upsets too many people it seems!

Have you ever thought that there may be a reason for that? 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

.........................and that is what fuels the hatred and anger amongst the Palestinians Cem!  So many in authority in the West are all too keen to ignore the sins of the Israeli's; but I will not go any further on that subject!  Upsets too many people it seems!

Have you ever thought that there may be a reason for that? 

Yes Nick, because this Forum is based in the West

.......and have you ever wondered Nick why so many Jews around the world are very "uncomfortable" about the actions of Israel?

[Nickbat]

.........................and that is what fuels the hatred and anger amongst the Palestinians Cem!  So many in authority in the West are all too keen to ignore the sins of the Israeli's; but I will not go any further on that subject!  Upsets too many people it seems!

Have you ever thought that there may be a reason for that? 

Yes Nick, because this Forum is based in the West

Ah, yes, the sinful West. Must be hard squaring your worldview with that of the the Conservative Party. Actually, forget that. With the current Conservative Party under Camerona/Clegg/Hague, it must be quite easy.   

[Lizzie_Zoom]

.........................and that is what fuels the hatred and anger amongst the Palestinians Cem!  So many in authority in the West are all too keen to ignore the sins of the Israeli's; but I will not go any further on that subject!  Upsets too many people it seems!

Have you ever thought that there may be a reason for that? 

Yes Nick, because this Forum is based in the West

.......and have you ever wondered Nick why so many Jews around the world are very "uncomfortable" about the actions of Israel?

.......and have you ever wondered Nick why so many Jews around the world are very "uncomfortable" about the actions of Israel?

Nothing to do with being a Conservative either, but a fair minded individual who wants justice for all, including the Palestinians!

[Nickbat]

For double standards you only have to look at the Jews and Palestine. Why hasn't the murder of Arabs been stopped there? (Rhetorical question doesn't need an answer).
 

Huh? 

What about the murder of Jews? It's a two-way street, Varche.

12 March 2011: Five members of Jewish family killed in suspected Palestinian militant attack

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/west-bank-jewish-family-killed

I wish you showed the same sensitivity when palestinians were under phosphor bombs :-/

And what about the Jewish men women and children who have been ripped limb from limb by suicide bombs? If you try to argue that one form of violent death is more or less bad than another, the argument is lost before you start.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

For double standards you only have to look at the Jews and Palestine. Why hasn't the murder of Arabs been stopped there? (Rhetorical question doesn't need an answer).
 

Huh? 

What about the murder of Jews? It's a two-way street, Varche.

12 March 2011: Five members of Jewish family killed in suspected Palestinian militant attack

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/west-bank-jewish-family-killed

I wish you showed the same sensitivity when palestinians were under phosphor bombs :-/

And what about the Jewish men women and children who have been ripped limb from limb by suicide bombs? If you try to argue that one form of violent death is more or less bad than another, the argument is lost before you start.

Before Cem answers I will just ask you Nick why you think the following figures are as they are?

At least 6,430 Palestinians and 1,084 Israelis
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

That tells a story!

[Nickbat]

.......and have you ever wondered Nick why so many Jews around the world are very "uncomfortable" about the actions of Israel?

Nothing to do with being a Conservative either, but a fair minded individual who wants justice for all, including the Palestinians!

Have you ever wondered, Lizzie, why so many Jews around the world are very "comfortable" about the actions of Israel?

You see, we can all bandy unsupported claims around.

But, if you really want justice for all, then taking sides in the Palestinian/Israeli debate, which you seem to be doing, is not conducive to an outcome which provides justice to both sides. And that, is the actually the reason why the issue has never been settled. 

[cem_devecioglu]

For double standards you only have to look at the Jews and Palestine. Why hasn't the murder of Arabs been stopped there? (Rhetorical question doesn't need an answer).
 

Huh? 

What about the murder of Jews? It's a two-way street, Varche.

12 March 2011: Five members of Jewish family killed in suspected Palestinian militant attack

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/west-bank-jewish-family-killed

I wish you showed the same sensitivity when palestinians were under phosphor bombs :-/

And what about the Jewish men women and children who have been ripped limb from limb by suicide bombs? If you try to argue that one form of violent death is more or less bad than another, the argument is lost before you start.

have you ever seen a British wrapping around C4 bombs and exploding him/herself ..

have you ever seen someone exploding self without any Serious reason ? 

.. means "desperation" in my dictionary.. if a stronger force beats you to death this is the only way left to you

[Nickbat]

For double standards you only have to look at the Jews and Palestine. Why hasn't the murder of Arabs been stopped there? (Rhetorical question doesn't need an answer).
 

Huh? 

What about the murder of Jews? It's a two-way street, Varche.

12 March 2011: Five members of Jewish family killed in suspected Palestinian militant attack

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/west-bank-jewish-family-killed

I wish you showed the same sensitivity when palestinians were under phosphor bombs :-/

And what about the Jewish men women and children who have been ripped limb from limb by suicide bombs? If you try to argue that one form of violent death is more or less bad than another, the argument is lost before you start.

Before Cem answers I will just ask you Nick why you think the following figures are as they are?

At least 6,430 Palestinians and 1,084 Israelis
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

That tells a story!

The story being that the Palestinians don't have an air force. Harsh, but true when you think about it. Besides which, playing the numbers game says nothing about justice. No conflict has ever had an equal number of casualties on both sides. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

.......and have you ever wondered Nick why so many Jews around the world are very "uncomfortable" about the actions of Israel?

Nothing to do with being a Conservative either, but a fair minded individual who wants justice for all, including the Palestinians!

Have you ever wondered, Lizzie, why so many Jews around the world are very "comfortable" about the actions of Israel?

You see, we can all bandy unsupported claims around.

But, if you really want justice for all, then taking sides in the Palestinian/Israeli debate, which you seem to be doing, is not conducive to an outcome which provides justice to both sides. And that, is the actually the reason why the issue has never been settled. 

To start with they are not!

Then there is the legal situation.  Read this Nick:

The land dispute has increasingly focused on Israel's occupation of the remaining territories -- the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. UN Resolutions 242 and 338 stipulate that Israel must withdraw completely from these territories. Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip on 12 September 2005, but continues to build many Jewish settlements in the other territories, actions deemed illegal by virtually all other states. The Oslo Accords (1993) and the Road Map (2003) have failed to reach a land agreement between the parties or to bring Israeli withdrawal.

Since 2002, the Israeli government has been building a "security fence" that winds deep into Palestinian territory, claiming the barrier would keep Palestinian suicide bombers from striking Israeli citizens. But this separation wall is a major de facto annexation of Palestinian territories. By building the wall and increasing settlement expansion, Israel retains control over important Palestinian economic areas, agricultural grounds and natural resources like water. The International Court of Justice has ruled that Israel's West Bank barrier violates international law, but the unequal struggle over the land of Palestine continues. "

[Nickbat]

have you ever seen a British wrapping around C4 bombs and exploding him/herself ..

have you ever seen someone exploding self without any Serious reason ? 

.. means "desperation" in my dictionary.. if a stronger force beats you to death this is the only way left to you

Means "total stupidity" in my dictionary. Every time one of these idiots blows himself/herself up their action sets back the prospects for peace by months/years. They are probably to dim to realise that, though.

[cem_devecioglu]

have you ever seen a British wrapping around C4 bombs and exploding him/herself ..

have you ever seen someone exploding self without any Serious reason ? 

.. means "desperation" in my dictionary.. if a stronger force beats you to death this is the only way left to you

Means "total stupidity" in my dictionary. Every time one of these idiots blows himself/herself up their action sets back the prospects for peace by months/years. They are probably to dim to realise that, though.

really ?  :-?

if someone bombs you , closes the doors that you can get food and medicine, blocks your water ways
and passes over you with tanks , what will you do ?

(we must remember the British woman who died for that reason under caterpillars.. Rest in peace)