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[Nickbat]

I just love the way you lot 'know' what's actually going on in the world. Not what's reported on the news or in the vast amount of documentaries on the subjects, but the real, true story behind the headlines.
I wish I was as clever, the world would hold no mystery or fear any more.
I'm sure MI6 would be very grateful if you were all to pass on your vast knowledge and experience.

I don't know if I'm included in the "you lot" to which you refer, Steve, but I'm merely airing my opinions and not making any wild claims. If I wasn't airing my opinions on here, I'd only be looking at naked ladies or similar...

...which reminds me.

[cem_devecioglu]

I just love the way you lot 'know' what's actually going on in the world. Not what's reported on the news or in the vast amount of documentaries on the subjects, but the real, true story behind the headlines.
I wish I was as clever, the world would hold no mystery or fear any more.
I'm sure MI6 would be very grateful if you were all to pass on your vast knowledge and experience.

who is the owner of most media and the tv channels STMO      so dont expect a straight truth.. instead you will find it in a deformed way..but not totally wrong , only spelled a bit different

[albitz]

I will tell you a straight truth Cem. I believe that if you look objectively at the bigger picture of world politics, you may realise that the U.S and Western policies in general towards the middle Eastern region might be the only thing which is preventing your country ( and quite a few others) from slipping into an Islamist Iranian satellite state.
The Iranian leadership has ambitions to have the Middle East (and beyond) become an Islamist Empire with Iran at the centre of it.
Western/U.S. policies regarding the region centre around trying to prevent that from happening.

[cem_devecioglu]

For double standards you only have to look at the Jews and Palestine. Why hasn't the murder of Arabs been stopped there? (Rhetorical question doesn't need an answer).
 

Huh? 

What about the murder of Jews? It's a two-way street, Varche.

12 March 2011: Five members of Jewish family killed in suspected Palestinian militant attack

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/west-bank-jewish-family-killed

I wish you showed the same sensitivity when palestinians were under phosphor bombs :-/

And what about the Jewish men women and children who have been ripped limb from limb by suicide bombs? If you try to argue that one form of violent death is more or less bad than another, the argument is lost before you start.

have you ever seen a British wrapping around C4 bombs and exploding him/herself ..

have you ever seen someone exploding self without any Serious reason ? 

.. means "desperation" in my dictionary.. if a stronger force beats you to death this is the only way left to you

YES! We had British citizens blow themselves and many innocent people to smithereens on the London underground and buses not so long ago Cem. It was not because they had a serious reason or were desperate, it was becuase they were brainwashed pawns in a bigger game, just like some Palestinian people are.
Thee have been large sums of money put into the Gaza strip to build decent homes for the people who live in very poor conditions close to the Isreali border, but Hamas wont use the money for its intended purpose, as it suits them to keep these people just as they are, so that they can take the worlds press to the area and show them the "terrible conditions" these people live in, and why they are firing rockets into Israel out of desperation.

these were imported British , so not counted

[cem_devecioglu]

I will tell you a straight truth Cem. I believe that if you look objectively at the bigger picture of world politics, you may realise that the U.S and Western policies in general towards the middle Eastern region might be the only thing which is preventing your country ( and quite a few others) from slipping into an Islamist Iranian satellite state.
The Iranian leadership has ambitions to have the Middle East (and beyond) become an Islamist Empire with Iran at the centre of it.
Western/U.S. policies regarding the region centre around trying to prevent that from happening.

Albs.. how I can tell you now.. :-/

that if US continues the current policy, you may have to find me a job there soon   as those imams are planning to cut me alive

[albitz]

I dont recall for a fact Cem, but I believe they were born in this country,and it certainly counted to the families of the innocents of those killed and maimed.

[cem_devecioglu]

I will tell you a straight truth Cem. I believe that if you look objectively at the bigger picture of world politics, you may realise that the U.S and Western policies in general towards the middle Eastern region might be the only thing which is preventing your country ( and quite a few others) from slipping into an Islamist Iranian satellite state.
The Iranian leadership has ambitions to have the Middle East (and beyond) become an Islamist Empire with Iran at the centre of it.
Western/U.S. policies regarding the region centre around trying to prevent that from happening.

Albs.. how I can tell you now.. :-/

that if US continues the current policy, you may have to find me a job there soon   as those imams are planning to cut me alive

seriously, check the latest news .. you will see many details

[Richie London]

there will be 57 yrs of peace from the end of world war 2 then the next world war will begin.
nostradamus.

or words to that effect

[albitz]

I will tell you a straight truth Cem. I believe that if you look objectively at the bigger picture of world politics, you may realise that the U.S and Western policies in general towards the middle Eastern region might be the only thing which is preventing your country ( and quite a few others) from slipping into an Islamist Iranian satellite state.
The Iranian leadership has ambitions to have the Middle East (and beyond) become an Islamist Empire with Iran at the centre of it.
Western/U.S. policies regarding the region centre around trying to prevent that from happening.

Albs.. how I can tell you now.. :-/

that if US continues the current policy, you may have to find me a job there soon   as those imams are planning to cut me alive

My point is Cem - do you think that if the U.S. and the rest of the world kept its nose out of the middle East, that you would be safer from the Imams ?

[Nickbat]

there will be 57 yrs of peace from the end of world war 2 then the next world war will begin.
nostradamus.

or words to that effect

Yeah, yeah, like he prophesied 9/11, the space shuttle disaster...

All pony and trap, to use a cockney expression.

[Richie London]

great reading though nick. nearly as good as viz 

[Nickbat]

great reading though nick. nearly as good as viz 

 

Viz is better, though, Rich! 

Especially Roger's Profanisaurus

http://www.viz.co.uk/profanisaurus.html

[cem_devecioglu]

I will tell you a straight truth Cem. I believe that if you look objectively at the bigger picture of world politics, you may realise that the U.S and Western policies in general towards the middle Eastern region might be the only thing which is preventing your country ( and quite a few others) from slipping into an Islamist Iranian satellite state.
The Iranian leadership has ambitions to have the Middle East (and beyond) become an Islamist Empire with Iran at the centre of it.
Western/U.S. policies regarding the region centre around trying to prevent that from happening.

Albs.. how I can tell you now.. :-/

that if US continues the current policy, you may have to find me a job there soon   as those imams are planning to cut me alive

My point is Cem - do you think that if the U.S. and the rest of the world kept its nose out of the middle East, that you would be safer from the Imams ?

You have PM

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Cem, according to our press, certainly the BBC, Turkey is going to do a 'U' turn on it's so far non-involvement in the Libyan affair.

With Nato taking over command which your government had insisted upon, it seems Turkey will play its part albeit maybe limited.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12864742

Any comments or observations on this Cem?

 :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

Cem, according to our press, certainly the BBC, Turkey is going to do a 'U' turn on it's so far non-involvement in the Libyan affair.

With Nato taking over command which your government had insisted upon, it seems Turkey will play its part albeit maybe limited.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12864742

Any comments or observations on this Cem?

 :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

I just shared a video on facebook of the U turn.. but this U turn belong to the decision maker not the whole country (which I didnt vote) .. so my heart feels not guilty..