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[CaptainZok]

Acceleration should be a tad quicker on a GLS due to having less weight to accelerate.
Doubt top end will be any different though as I would have thought wind resistance would much more significant by then. Maybe the boot spoiler on the Elite would give it a slight edge.
Who knows?

[Jimbob]

note to self, never argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Brush up on Newtons (2nd) Law Tunnie

[CaptainZok]

note to self, never argue with an idiot with a degree, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Brush up on Newtons (2nd) Law Tunnie

Fixed that for you JB.

[bob.dent]

note to self, never argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Brush up on Newtons (2nd) Law Tunnie

 

Bloody students.........don't you just love 'em!

[mr carl]

well i have a k reg calibra xe and that still shifts regardless of its age....i want something that is as fast as is, while keeping the same sort of mpg as the calibra...

which is why i am after the 2.5 rather than the larger 2.6-3.0 etc.

its not only off the line 0-60, the lighter car would handle better, having less unsprung weight ofcourse..

but is the gls bottom of the range? i want a few gadgets at least

[bob.dent]

well i have a k reg calibra xe and that still shifts regardless of its age....i want something that is as fast as is, while keeping the same sort of mpg as the calibra...

which is why i am after the 2.5 rather than the larger 2.6-3.0 etc.

its not only off the line 0-60, the lighter car would handle better, having less unsprung weight ofcourse..

but is the gls bottom of the range? i want a few gadgets at least

Get yourself a 3.2 MV6.................job done! 8-)

[tunnie]

Ladies Ladies, we are talking about an Omega here.

When both were brand spankers out of the factory, then yeah there would have been a difference.

But a decade old? A decade of crappy mechanics? Sorry but thats just going to add huge amount of unknowns that will play havoc with Newtons law!

[mr carl]

i would love to have the 3.2 mv6, but i dont like getting raped at the petrol station 

[mr carl]

Ladies Ladies, we are talking about an Omega here.

When both were brand spankers out of the factory, then yeah there would have been a difference.

But a decade old? A decade of crappy mechanics? Sorry but thats just going to add huge amount of unknowns that will play havoc with Newtons law!

 

im very handy with a spanner, i love rebuilding engines...so age wouldnt really matter 

i just want a omega that is fast enough for me not to miss my calibra, and not get over taken by a 17 year old in a 1.4 saxo 

[tunnie]

Ladies Ladies, we are talking about an Omega here.

When both were brand spankers out of the factory, then yeah there would have been a difference.

But a decade old? A decade of crappy mechanics? Sorry but thats just going to add huge amount of unknowns that will play havoc with Newtons law!

 

im very handy with a spanner, i love rebuilding engines...so age wouldnt really matter 

i just want a omega that is fast enough for me not to miss my calibra, and not get over taken by a 17 year old in a 1.4 saxo 

Then get a 2.5 Elite Manual and pop 3.0 cams in there 

Disagreements (and idiot insults) aside, I genuinely believe a decade is going to take its toll, and the age of cars you would be looking at, spec will be irrelevant for 0-60, even more so for top end. Difference is only 66kg 

[mantahatch]

Tunnie - Ya cannae change the laws of physics...


ALL things being equal, the lighter HAS to be faster.

yes there are good heavy cars, and bad light ones.  but when factors are equal, less is more 

On an 11 year old car?

A 2.5 GLS has to be fast than a 2.5 Elite? (assuming no modifications to either)

Sorry, I don't think so, too many factors over course of a decade.

Take the full sentance, dont mis-quote.

I didn't 

This is the whole point, 11 years is a long time. Two equals, a 1998 GLS & Elite 2.5 manuals, identical service history, identical tyres?

Its still going to make sod all difference, on paper they still have same 0-60 dash time.

 

Yes they have the same times on paper. How would it look when selling the cars, here sir you could have a poverty spec car that is quicker and more fuel effient than the more expesive car we are trying to sell you.
Probably business suicide to admit it.

The bit about uni was not an insult, it was meant in fun. I work with students every day T

[bob.dent]

i would love to have the 3.2 mv6, but i dont like getting raped at the petrol station 

Unfortunately with the ludicrous price of fuel liquid gold today, a very good point!
Mind you, I get apprx. 23mpg with mixed driving and close to 30mpg on a good run, but still crippling! Such a shame with all those horses and only running them at a mere canter most of the time.

[tunnie]

Tunnie - Ya cannae change the laws of physics...


ALL things being equal, the lighter HAS to be faster.

yes there are good heavy cars, and bad light ones.  but when factors are equal, less is more 

On an 11 year old car?

A 2.5 GLS has to be fast than a 2.5 Elite? (assuming no modifications to either)

Sorry, I don't think so, too many factors over course of a decade.

Take the full sentance, dont mis-quote.

I didn't 

This is the whole point, 11 years is a long time. Two equals, a 1998 GLS & Elite 2.5 manuals, identical service history, identical tyres?

Its still going to make sod all difference, on paper they still have same 0-60 dash time.

 

Yes they have the same times on paper. How would it look when selling the cars, here sir you could have a poverty spec car that is quicker and more fuel effient than the more expesive car we are trying to sell you.
Probably business suicide to admit it.

The bit about uni was not an insult, it was meant in fun. I work with students every day T

Thats a whole new can of worms there, prob not worth getting into that   

If we were were talking about fresh out of the factory cars, this would be a lot easier. 

[tunnie]

i would love to have the 3.2 mv6, but i dont like getting raped at the petrol station 

Unfortunately with the ludicrous price of fuel liquid gold today, a very good point!
Mind you, I get apprx. 23mpg with mixed driving and close to 30mpg on a good run, but still crippling! Such a shame with all those horses and only running them at a mere canter most of the time.

LPG Bob, you know it makes sense 

[bob.dent]

i would love to have the 3.2 mv6, but i dont like getting raped at the petrol station 

Unfortunately with the ludicrous price of fuel liquid gold today, a very good point!
Mind you, I get apprx. 23mpg with mixed driving and close to 30mpg on a good run, but still crippling! Such a shame with all those horses and only running them at a mere canter most of the time.

LPG Bob, you know it makes sense 

Trouble is Tunnie, I don't know how much longer I'll keep it and I'm loathe to spend between 1 to 2 grand (or whatever the cost is these days) for the conversion. If I'd known how much the cost of fuel was going to rise, realistically I should have done it when I first got it.