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mr carl

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which is the quickest 2.5?
« on: 12 April 2011, 13:06:07 »
I see all different variants of 2.5 v6's but which model is the quickest?

Also do different models come with different gadgets, if so what type...trip computer etc etc.....?
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #1 on: 12 April 2011, 13:13:51 »
Fastest 2.5 is probably the GLS as it is the lightest. Slowest is probably the Elite because it is the heaviest. Fastest round corners is probably the MV6.

HTH

Elite has all the toys, GLS has fewest toys, all other models are somewhere in between.
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #2 on: 12 April 2011, 13:34:09 »
mine, because I'm the "driver"  [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif];D ;D ;D :y


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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #3 on: 12 April 2011, 13:37:56 »
spec, in reality will have zero difference. An Elite could easily beat a GLS, considering the youngest 2.5 out there now will be around 11 years old, it will all depend on how its been serviced!
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« Reply #4 on: 12 April 2011, 13:41:23 »
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spec, in reality will have zero difference. An Elite could easily beat a GLS, considering the youngest 2.5 out there now will be around 11 years old, it will all depend on how its been serviced!

correct.. but there are some cheats to be done.. drop the radius of tires and wheels  [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] ;D
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« Reply #5 on: 12 April 2011, 14:57:02 »
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spec, in reality will have zero difference. An Elite could easily beat a GLS, considering the youngest 2.5 out there now will be around 11 years old, it will all depend on how its been serviced!


Elite has heavier leather seats, extra heaters in rear seats extra cables and relays to feed heaters, rear blind. bose amp and extra wiring plus more I have probably forgotten. This will make it weigh more than a GLS which does not even have heated front seats so I am told by people one here.

So if the two cars are still at factory spec then the lighter car will be slightly quicker on paper.

I thought you had just finished University.  ::) ::)
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #6 on: 12 April 2011, 15:07:15 »
I wouldn't mind betting all the Elite bloat makes a noticeable difference. ;)

Get rid of the leather, seat bases full of motors, sunroof, air con, big alloys, bose, etc. You must be able to lose 150 kg. That's not far off a 10% weight saving.

Obviously it'd have to be a manual saloon, too.

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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #7 on: 12 April 2011, 15:09:06 »
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I wouldn't mind betting all the Elite bloat makes a noticeable difference. ;)

Get rid of the leather, seat bases full of motors, sunroof, air con, big alloys, bose, etc. You must be able to lose 150 kg. That's not far off a 10% weight saving.

Obviously it'd have to be a manual saloon, too.

Kevin

Alternatively Nos. the beast  8-)
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #8 on: 12 April 2011, 16:04:00 »
how many different types are there?

cdx
gls
cd
tdcx
td elite

am i missing any? so the gls is the quickest?
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #9 on: 12 April 2011, 16:05:50 »
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spec, in reality will have zero difference. An Elite could easily beat a GLS, considering the youngest 2.5 out there now will be around 11 years old, it will all depend on how its been serviced!


Elite has heavier leather seats, extra heaters in rear seats extra cables and relays to feed heaters, rear blind. bose amp and extra wiring plus more I have probably forgotten. This will make it weigh more than a GLS which does not even have heated front seats so I am told by people one here.

So if the two cars are still at factory spec then the lighter car will be slightly quicker on paper.

I thought you had just finished University.  ::) ::)

On paper, maybe. But the youngest 2.5 Omega will be 11 years old. An Elite could easily, easily out drag a 2.5 GLS....

I weigh around 80kg, some people weigh 120kg.... so unless your going really start getting pedantic about drivers weight, amount of petrol in tank, whats in the boot....

Stand by my view, spec, would mean sod-all in 0-60 dash. Its all about maintenance, service history and down to the build of the engine. Some go better than others. Also 99% of it is down to the driver.

Grabbing the paper figures:

2.5 Elite - Minimum kerb weight       1660 kg
2.5 GLS - Minimum kerb weight       1594 kg

So put a fat git in the GLS, and a skinny bugger like me in the Elite, and there is no advantage.

 
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #10 on: 12 April 2011, 16:08:07 »
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how many different types are there?

cdx
gls
cd
tdcx
td elite

am i missing any? so the gls is the quickest?

No. Spec will make zero difference to performance on cars that could be up to 17 years old. A well maintained Elite could easily out drag a poorly maintained poverty spec Select
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #11 on: 12 April 2011, 16:10:04 »
Tunnie - Ya cannae change the laws of physics...


ALL things being equal, the lighter HAS to be faster.

yes there are good heavy cars, and bad light ones.  but when factors are equal, less is more  :y

and all taken into account, is straight line...
in real life, MV6 can be faster as it has better suspension, the probably everything else, finishing with the Wallowy self levelling elite.
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #12 on: 12 April 2011, 16:13:08 »
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Tunnie - Ya cannae change the laws of physics...


ALL things being equal, the lighter HAS to be faster.

yes there are good heavy cars, and bad light ones.  but when factors are equal, less is more  :y

On an 11 year old car?

A 2.5 GLS has to be fast than a 2.5 Elite? (assuming no modifications to either)

Sorry, I don't think so, too many factors over course of a decade.
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #13 on: 12 April 2011, 16:19:01 »
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Tunnie - Ya cannae change the laws of physics...


ALL things being equal, the lighter HAS to be faster.

yes there are good heavy cars, and bad light ones.  but when factors are equal, less is more  :y

On an 11 year old car?

A 2.5 GLS has to be fast than a 2.5 Elite? (assuming no modifications to either)

Sorry, I don't think so, too many factors over course of a decade.

Take the full sentance, dont mis-quote.
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Re: which is the quickest 2.5?
« Reply #14 on: 12 April 2011, 16:25:48 »
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Tunnie - Ya cannae change the laws of physics...


ALL things being equal, the lighter HAS to be faster.

yes there are good heavy cars, and bad light ones.  but when factors are equal, less is more  :y

On an 11 year old car?

A 2.5 GLS has to be fast than a 2.5 Elite? (assuming no modifications to either)

Sorry, I don't think so, too many factors over course of a decade.

Take the full sentance, dont mis-quote.

I didn't  :y

This is the whole point, 11 years is a long time. Two equals, a 1998 GLS & Elite 2.5 manuals, identical service history, identical tyres?

Its still going to make sod all difference, on paper they still have same 0-60 dash time.

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