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[TheBoy]

Unfortunately I don't have an integrated disk .... and, apparently, you can't make them yourself like you could with XP .... unless you know better  

Just finished making a slipstreamed DVD of 7 with SP1 included (both 32 & 64 bit), took around 30 mins to apply the service pack, and about 10 mins to remove all the crap (such as the games, Windows DVD Maker, Windows Media Player, etc).

Let me know which version of Win 7 you have, and I'll quite happily build you an ISO with SP1 integrated that you can download and burn back to disc yourself.

I just d/l from Technet and modify the ei.cfg...

...I was going to offer the 'standard' MS Win7 SP1 to Entwood, but unclear on the rules of distributing the media, despite te fact he clearly has a licence.  As far as I can work out from the OEM site, the licence cost increases if OEMs provide media (unless different OEMs have different agreements - likely with MS!), so presume their are legalities around this...

[Omegatoy]

right then!!
total non techie here, last time this 2005 laptop was played with was by TB, and a very good job he did too,
frightening bit for me is, its running xp its probably due something called a format? or reformatting? what ever the hell that is, it get the download from ms and installs them and generally is pretty reliable? however windows xp is no longer supported? what does that mean? will i have to change anything when this happens?
will it refuse to work or what?
simple answers please!!!

[Martian]

...I was going to offer the 'standard' MS Win7 SP1 to Entwood, but unclear on the rules of distributing the media, despite te fact he clearly has a licence.  As far as I can work out from the OEM site, the licence cost increases if OEMs provide media (unless different OEMs have different agreements - likely with MS!), so presume their are legalities around this...

I've been trawling through the rules we have to abide by and I see nothing that says I cannot distribute the media.
The rules do say that we cannot modify the software, but I suspect that "modify" means reverse engineering it rather than slipstreaming a service pack.

If Entwood is worried about the legalities, I'll quite happily slipstream SP1 in to his installation disc if he builds an ISO of it and uploads it somewhere.

[Entwood]

...I was going to offer the 'standard' MS Win7 SP1 to Entwood, but unclear on the rules of distributing the media, despite te fact he clearly has a licence.  As far as I can work out from the OEM site, the licence cost increases if OEMs provide media (unless different OEMs have different agreements - likely with MS!), so presume their are legalities around this...

I've been trawling through the rules we have to abide by and I see nothing that says I cannot distribute the media.
The rules do say that we cannot modify the software, but I suspect that "modify" means reverse engineering it rather than slipstreaming a service pack.

If Entwood is worried about the legalities, I'll quite happily slipstream SP1 in to his installation disc if he builds an ISO of it and uploads it somewhere.

Many thanks for that kind offer, but - hopefully - now it is on and working it shouldn't need reloading until SP2 appears. I've not had to rebuild the Win 7 install at all until now. It was only the SP1 that seemed to cause an issue.. and now I know the "sequence" needed it's not that much of a hardship.... 

I still say bring back XP ... I understood that !!!  Although the more I learn about 7 .. the easier it gets ...  I'll probably get it sussed in time for windows 10 !!!! 

[CaptainZok]

...I was going to offer the 'standard' MS Win7 SP1 to Entwood, but unclear on the rules of distributing the media, despite te fact he clearly has a licence.  As far as I can work out from the OEM site, the licence cost increases if OEMs provide media (unless different OEMs have different agreements - likely with MS!), so presume their are legalities around this...

I've been trawling through the rules we have to abide by and I see nothing that says I cannot distribute the media.
The rules do say that we cannot modify the software, but I suspect that "modify" means reverse engineering it rather than slipstreaming a service pack.

If Entwood is worried about the legalities, I'll quite happily slipstream SP1 in to his installation disc if he builds an ISO of it and uploads it somewhere.

Don't suppose you have any walkthroughs for making your own slipstreamed discs do you M?

[Martian]

Don't suppose you have any walkthroughs for making your own slipstreamed discs do you M?

I don't, but I'll knock one up for you in the next couple of days or so.

I still say bring back XP ... I understood that !!!

That's pretty much what the 9x users said when they moved over to XP 

Just out of curiosity, why did you have to disconnect all your system drives prior to installing 7?
If it was because the drive you wanted to install Windows to was coming up as a drive letter other than C:, all that means is that the drive order is not correctly set in your BIOS.

[TheBoy]

...I was going to offer the 'standard' MS Win7 SP1 to Entwood, but unclear on the rules of distributing the media, despite te fact he clearly has a licence.  As far as I can work out from the OEM site, the licence cost increases if OEMs provide media (unless different OEMs have different agreements - likely with MS!), so presume their are legalities around this...

I've been trawling through the rules we have to abide by and I see nothing that says I cannot distribute the media.
The rules do say that we cannot modify the software, but I suspect that "modify" means reverse engineering it rather than slipstreaming a service pack.

If Entwood is worried about the legalities, I'll quite happily slipstream SP1 in to his installation disc if he builds an ISO of it and uploads it somewhere.

The retail CDs say Not For ReDistribution and the OEM ones (the ones I have here are all Manufacturer supplied ones, rather than MS supplied OEM ones) say For Distribution with xxxx PCs only  (xxxx=manufacturer's brand). Both have copyright notices as well...

Hence lack of clarity.  I suspect I know what MS's lawyers would say though

[Martian]

The retail CDs say Not For ReDistribution and the OEM ones (the ones I have here are all Manufacturer supplied ones, rather than MS supplied OEM ones) say For Distribution with xxxx PCs only  (xxxx=manufacturer's brand). Both have copyright notices as well...

Hence lack of clarity.  I suspect I know what MS's lawyers would say though

I know the discs you mean, I have a few here from various MS schemes I have been on in the past through work.

My current deal with MS is that I get a licence key for whatever product I decide to test, and I then download the ISO from them and burn it to disc myself.
As a result of this procedure, there is no warning on the disc itself about making illegal copies, etc.
The rules themselves don't say anything about not distributing the software to others, and that seems logical to me as whoever I give a copy to has to have a valid licence key to use whatever I give them anyway.


PS

MS lawyers = more slippery than a conga eel in a bucket of swarfega 

[Entwood]

Don't suppose you have any walkthroughs for making your own slipstreamed discs do you M?

I don't, but I'll knock one up for you in the next couple of days or so.

I still say bring back XP ... I understood that !!!

That's pretty much what the 9x users said when they moved over to XP 

Just out of curiosity, why did you have to disconnect all your system drives prior to installing 7?
If it was because the drive you wanted to install Windows to was coming up as a drive letter other than C:, all that means is that the drive order is not correctly set in your BIOS.

Purely a cautious move, I have XP installed on one partition, data on another, photo's on another and music on the last (2 drives 4 partitions) .... I've seen, and had to recover, to much data lost by "errors" .. both human and electronic... to take an unneccessary risk ..

I have some programs that will only run under XP, and until I finish re-installing all the software and the virtual PC on 7 running XP I still need access, so the ability to boot to the other drive gives me another option. Probably not the prettiest or most efficient way of running ... but it works ... Also means my backups of data (3 partitions) are simply done.

[TheBoy]

The retail CDs say Not For ReDistribution and the OEM ones (the ones I have here are all Manufacturer supplied ones, rather than MS supplied OEM ones) say For Distribution with xxxx PCs only  (xxxx=manufacturer's brand). Both have copyright notices as well...

Hence lack of clarity.  I suspect I know what MS's lawyers would say though

I know the discs you mean, I have a few here from various MS schemes I have been on in the past through work.

My current deal with MS is that I get a licence key for whatever product I decide to test, and I then download the ISO from them and burn it to disc myself.
As a result of this procedure, there is no warning on the disc itself about making illegal copies, etc.
The rules themselves don't say anything about not distributing the software to others, and that seems logical to me as whoever I give a copy to has to have a valid licence key to use whatever I give them anyway.


PS

MS lawyers = more slippery than a conga eel in a bucket of swarfega 

The (public) trial stuff is OK to distribute I believe, but not publish.

Other download options - HUP, EPP, Technet Subscription, PSS options would have small print, I bet you.


All lawyers are sods. Maybe I shouldn't keep arguing with them.

[Martian]

Don't suppose you have any walkthroughs for making your own slipstreamed discs do you M?

Sat here at the hossy bored to tears, and while skulking around for something to help me tweak my Win 7 install disc I found a utility that will make it nice & easy for you to do what you want.

It's called RT7 Lite and can be got from http://www.rt7lite.com/downloads.html
You want the beta version (Build 2.6.0) if you want to slipstream SP1.

I have tested it myself as far as slipstreaming goes, and that works. I haven't tested the other parts of it though that allow you to customise Windows.
If you are going to customise your Windows disc, you need to slipstream SP1 first and then make any other changes you want.



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[CaptainZok]

Cheers M. I'll download it and have a play.
Best of luck with the hospital appointment.

[TheBoy]

Don't suppose you have any walkthroughs for making your own slipstreamed discs do you M?

Sat here at the hossy bored to tears, and while skulking around for something to help me tweak my Win 7 install disc I found a utility that will make it nice & easy for you to do what you want.

It's called RT7 Lite and can be got from http://www.rt7lite.com/downloads.html
You want the beta version (Build 2.6.0) if you want to slipstream SP1.

I have tested it myself as far as slipstreaming goes, and that works. I haven't tested the other parts of it though that allow you to customise Windows.
If you are going to customise your Windows disc, you need to slipstream SP1 first and then make any other changes you want.



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Your current signature made me chuckle (the forum sig, not the 'sent from droid' one

[Martian]

Your current signature made me chuckle (the forum sig, not the 'sent from droid' one

I still remember the days when that message was fairly commonplace, especially with the likes of the IBM Deskstar Deathstar.
Almost £200 for 120GB when they first came out (which was a damn good price back then), but don't bother storing anything you wanted to actually keep on them