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[davethediver]

I see your point entirely .... but the 14 p/mile is over nearly 2 years and includes towing a rather large caravan some decent distances .. ie  south of France !!!

Looking at the spreadsheet, on runs up to Huddersfield when the lad lived there, so mostly motorway cruising ... it was running at a shade under 9.0 pence a mile ... so using that it would need a diesel to get around 45 mpg to be equal .....

At the end of the day it's your choice .. I wanted the grunt and flexibility of the 3.2 petrol ... so bought one and gassed it ... but it wouldn't suit everyone..

I'm in a similar situation to tunnie, 2.2 and somewhere in the region of 3-4K miles a month.

I had thought about the 3.2 and gassing it fuel prices in the uk are getting a bit steep

But then their is the issue of insurance for us youths and the obligatory marks on the licence i would surely end up with

Yup, insurance is more, i also find the 2.2 more relaxing to drive. Which is because i don't race anyone, in the Estate, i know i can 'have' that person, or if someone is tail gating, i can boot it away.

2.2 i know, i can't beat anything, so the cruise is set, and off i goes, i won't chase anything or try to boot it, because it just won't win.

Or maybe i need to control myself with more power under the toe 

Rather starngely I've found that I'm generally more sedate with a big car than when I was in my previous, less well powered cars....... Or perhaps that's just getting older :-/ :-/

I do feel more in 'charge' in a big car and not as much to prove almost grown up 

[tigers_gonads]

slightly off topic i know but i'm considering putting a lpg kit on my 3ltr estate next year 
slight problem though ............. i need all the room in the back so it would have too be one of the tanks that fit in place of the spare wheel.

what is the largest tank that will fit and how far will it go on a tank full ?

[Entwood]

Not sure of the largest torodial that will fit .. but remember you can only fill an LPG tank to 80% for safety.

I reckon I'm getting an average of 18 mpg on LPG .. or 3.8 miles/ltr .. so my 80 litre tank, filled to 64 litres gives me, on average 250 miles - ish.

Thats over 18464 miles.

In reality when solo on a run I easily get 300-350 miles, solo around town about 230-250, towing I work on 180-200 miles between fills.

HTH

[tigers_gonads]

even at 150 miles to a tank ( around town ) then that will be pretty usefull 
i can live with 30 mpg plus on a run but a 3 ltr will kill me around town 

cheers   

ps    fancy a play in that a400m ??

[Lazydocker]

slightly off topic i know but i'm considering putting a lpg kit on my 3ltr estate next year 
slight problem though ............. i need all the room in the back so it would have too be one of the tanks that fit in place of the spare wheel.

what is the largest tank that will fit and how far will it go on a tank full ?

I'm having a little look at this for my replacement next year. I'll have to get the dimensions of the spare wheel well from someone and have a look. I think you can get something like a 74L tank in there if you put a 1" lift on the floor (False floor) but not sure where that comes from! :-/ :-/

[tigers_gonads]

are we still looking around 700 quid for the full kit ?

[Entwood]

even at 150 miles to a tank ( around town ) then that will be pretty usefull 
i can live with 30 mpg plus on a run but a 3 ltr will kill me around town 

cheers   

ps    fancy a play in that a400m ??

When it gets into "operational service" it will be 2-pilot operation .. no seat for a Flight Engineer - like what I was - so even if I was still in no chance of a job on one If it does all it is supposed to, and their airships allow it to be used as desgined .. it could be a good "fun" plane to fly.

The Herc C130K at low level in tactical mode was hard work but good fun .. and many a single fighter found they could not "defeat" us..... trouble was as we were defenceless as soon as there were two of them we had little chance..

[VXL V6]

slightly off topic i know but i'm considering putting a lpg kit on my 3ltr estate next year 
slight problem though ............. i need all the room in the back so it would have too be one of the tanks that fit in place of the spare wheel.

what is the largest tank that will fit and how far will it go on a tank full ?

I'm having a little look at this for my replacement next year. I'll have to get the dimensions of the spare wheel well from someone and have a look. I think you can get something like a 74L tank in there if you put a 1" lift on the floor (False floor) but not sure where that comes from! :-/ :-/

Have a word with Sassanach, that's what he did with his sons old estate.

[Lazydocker]

are we still looking around 700 quid for the full kit ?

I think so... Slightly more if having a Toroidal tank I think :-/

[tigers_gonads]

even at 150 miles to a tank ( around town ) then that will be pretty usefull 
i can live with 30 mpg plus on a run but a 3 ltr will kill me around town 

cheers   

ps    fancy a play in that a400m ??

When it gets into "operational service" it will be 2-pilot operation .. no seat for a Flight Engineer - like what I was - so even if I was still in no chance of a job on one If it does all it is supposed to, and their airships allow it to be used as desgined .. it could be a good "fun" plane to fly.

The Herc C130K at low level in tactical mode was hard work but good fun .. and many a single fighter found they could not "defeat" us..... trouble was as we were defenceless as soon as there were two of them we had little chance..

yeh, i remember them well 
i got a jolly in a t bird ( lightning )  about 86 
went for a blat up the coast past " raf dogger bank "
topped up by a victor then went for play up north 
came across a herc at about 500 ft up near otterburn  :-/
i was amazed how well they could turn at such a slow speed.  we just kept pulling up and rolling over the top to come back down till we got board    :-/   or was it we was nearly out of fuel 

[tigers_gonads]

whats the chance ( if we can get anough names ) of oof getting a discount and us having a lpg weekend 

[tunnie]

i thought about it, but there is a LOT of work needed to fit LPG, 3 days work in total i would say, 2 at a push, its not something that can be done on mass.

[tigers_gonads]

shame that

[Lazydocker]

whats the chance ( if we can get anough names ) of oof getting a discount and us having a lpg weekend 

We already get a discount... I'll send you the details later (just about to head off to bed so it won't be tonight as all the details are in the car ) but he is very busy and can be a little slow. In fact, I think I'll give him a call about that :-/ :-/

As for a fitting weekend... It has been discussed a few times. Can't really have more than 3 people working on one car, otherwise you'd just get in each others way. It's pretty major work TBH and not really suitable for a mass job. There has been talk of doing a couple of mini-LPG meets where people like Kevin Wood, James and myself (who have done at least one of these conversions) would float about and give general help

[Entwood]

When I had mine done - professional install - they wanted 4 days ... 1 for the tank, 1 for the engine, 1 for the "plumbing" as the guy called it, and 1 "just in case things don't go right"..... as it happens they called me on the 4 th day to say it was complete.  I suppose if you had 3 "teams" working on each aspect at once you could do it in a day ... but at times they would get in each others way....

I know when Kevin and others did Maries they got most of it done in 2 days but she still had some bits left to do....

Methinks an LPG meet would have to be at least a 3 day event, and maybe only, say 2 cars