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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24375 on: 02 October 2022, 08:44:59 »

As it's now running a Vectra sump without the wings I think it's needed and no room for a remote.
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« Reply #24376 on: 02 October 2022, 08:57:25 »

Or depending on intended use, do without it.
Ive often wondered just how necessary it is tbh. I cant see it doing much cooling when its sat in boiling hot coolant anyway.
If it was needed to keep oil temps down why not have it located where it would be blasted by cool air all the time ?


I maybe talking shite. Its not unknown. :)
You'd have to do some serious alterations to the plumbing and, at least, install a larger oil rad. Maybe better to just fit a new cooler?  ;D
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24377 on: 02 October 2022, 13:38:35 »

Or depending on intended use, do without it.
Ive often wondered just how necessary it is tbh. I cant see it doing much cooling when its sat in boiling hot coolant anyway.
If it was needed to keep oil temps down why not have it located where it would be blasted by cool air all the time ?


I maybe talking shite. Its not unknown. :)
It stabilises oil temperature, helps warm oil from cold, and keeps the oil from vastly changing temp during differing engine loads...
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24378 on: 02 October 2022, 16:24:11 »

Or depending on intended use, do without it.
Ive often wondered just how necessary it is tbh. I cant see it doing much cooling when its sat in boiling hot coolant anyway.
If it was needed to keep oil temps down why not have it located where it would be blasted by cool air all the time ?


I maybe talking shite. Its not unknown. :)
You'd have to do some serious alterations to the plumbing and, at least, install a larger oil rad. Maybe better to just fit a new cooler?  ;D

No you wouldnt. Just blank off the connections at each end of the sandwich plate and block. I was questioning the need for any oil cooler. Not suggesting a different one.
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24379 on: 02 October 2022, 16:25:22 »

So started cleaning and checking bits, only 4 bent intake valves but 2 damaged guides. Trouble is looks like a bent rod on cyl5 , well I think its 5 as its rear most on the bank with the head marked L. Strange as the valves on that cyl are fine. Bores are good and valve stem seals still soft, now has anyone got a spare conrod?? X30XE.
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« Reply #24380 on: 02 October 2022, 16:33:12 »

Or depending on intended use, do without it.
Ive often wondered just how necessary it is tbh. I cant see it doing much cooling when its sat in boiling hot coolant anyway.
If it was needed to keep oil temps down why not have it located where it would be blasted by cool air all the time ?


I maybe talking shite. Its not unknown. :)
You'd have to do some serious alterations to the plumbing and, at least, install a larger oil rad. Maybe better to just fit a new cooler?  ;D

No you wouldnt. Just blank off the connections at each end of the sandwich plate and block. I was questioning the need for any oil cooler. Not suggesting a different one.
Well, I'm no mechanic, but I'm guessing that wouldn't work  ;D
But, of course, you have an old omega to try it on  ::)
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24381 on: 03 October 2022, 10:04:52 »

In the 70,s only competition cars and supercars had oil coolers.People who wanted to do a lot of caraven towing or similar, would have one fitted as a precaution.
I suspect an Omega being used for everyday normal driving would survive quite happily without one.  :)
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24382 on: 03 October 2022, 10:07:50 »

So started cleaning and checking bits, only 4 bent intake valves but 2 damaged guides. Trouble is looks like a bent rod on cyl5 , well I think its 5 as its rear most on the bank with the head marked L. Strange as the valves on that cyl are fine. Bores are good and valve stem seals still soft, now has anyone got a spare conrod?? X30XE.

When I was breaking Omegas 10 years ago it was difficult to give the engines away, so in your shoes I would be thinking of scrapping your engine and sourcing another one.
I realise that they arent so easy to find now, but cant be that rare. Should be able to find one for a couple of hundred quid I would imagine.
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24383 on: 03 October 2022, 11:25:51 »

If you need valves, I am pretty sure I have some serviceable 3.0 ones (as the exhaust ones are sodium filled) that you are welcome to. Probably got followers, collets, springs the works to.

Would be very surprised if there was a bent rod, not seen one yet do that

The valve guides are usually ok but a good wiggel with an old valve would show any cracks
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24384 on: 03 October 2022, 17:26:26 »

Rod is bent, checked it with a rule. Found 3 more bent intakes when I lapped them (bugger) so would be interested in any valve. PM me thanks and if anyone has a rod
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24385 on: 04 October 2022, 14:06:31 »

Rod is bent, checked it with a rule. Found 3 more bent intakes when I lapped them (bugger) so would be interested in any valve. PM me thanks and if anyone has a rod
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24386 on: 04 October 2022, 14:50:17 »

Or depending on intended use, do without it.
Ive often wondered just how necessary it is tbh. I cant see it doing much cooling when its sat in boiling hot coolant anyway.
If it was needed to keep oil temps down why not have it located where it would be blasted by cool air all the time ?


I maybe talking shite. Its not unknown. :)
It stabilises oil temperature, helps warm oil from cold, and keeps the oil from vastly changing temp during differing engine loads...

As above.
Think more heat exchanger than oil cooler .... oil initially warms the coolant to help get engine to temp sooner
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24387 on: 04 October 2022, 19:10:58 »

I know that, but I dont think its strictly necessary.  ;)
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24388 on: 04 October 2022, 19:16:29 »

I know that, but I dont think its strictly necessary.  ;)
It probably saves a quids worth of petrol from every cold start :D
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #24389 on: 05 October 2022, 22:38:01 »

Drove the Mondeo to Edinburgh.  :)
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